YandaB
Newbie
Just saw this story: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/golf/articles/crkr7e4kk2xo I don't understand why people would do such a thing!
Someone's stolen Seve!
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Sadly, most likely to melt down and sell the bronze (or its components of course). Hopefully it gets found before they can do this. Very sad.
sunshine
Well-known member
At my old club, the heavy bronze fairway bell on one hole was stolen one night. Copper prices (actually all metals prices) have climbed significantly in recent years.
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Lucifer MorningStar
Well-known member
I understand why they do it. Because they’re thieving idiots looking for a quick buck. Which based on current metal prices they’ll get a pretty penny for it.
Unrelated but similar , 2 knob heads
Literally ripped the Paddington bear statue off of a bench in Reading High St last year to take home and brag for photos on the “gram”. They got found and charged, thankfully little Paddington is now back. But the point is people are stupid, don’t care about their surroundings, environment, Community or history and will do what they can to ruin it especially if they can earn from it.
Unrelated but similar , 2 knob heads
Literally ripped the Paddington bear statue off of a bench in Reading High St last year to take home and brag for photos on the “gram”. They got found and charged, thankfully little Paddington is now back. But the point is people are stupid, don’t care about their surroundings, environment, Community or history and will do what they can to ruin it especially if they can earn from it.
jim8flog
Journeyman Pro
During lock down we had lots of metal stolen from the course including few memorial plaques.
They even took one of the ball washers which later appeared on Facebook Market Place.
They even took one of the ball washers which later appeared on Facebook Market Place.
AussieKB
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People need to go to Jail, no more slap on the wrist and be a good boy.
Mel Smooth
Hacker
A good few years back metal thieves took all the plaques from the memorial garden where my mum's ashes are buried. they tried to weigh them in but the scrap merchant reported them to the cops and they were caught. Unfortunately they'd bent all the plaques so they couldn't be refitted.
It actually made The One Show at the time, a camera crew came out and filmed a piece for it and it was broadcast (back when Brucey was hosting). This kind of stuff is so common in todays society it would struggle to make the local paper now..
It actually made The One Show at the time, a camera crew came out and filmed a piece for it and it was broadcast (back when Brucey was hosting). This kind of stuff is so common in todays society it would struggle to make the local paper now..
Neilds
Assistant Pro
Ronaldo's statue has also been set on fire - not sure what they have got against statues at the moment.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/cristiano-ronaldo-statue-fire-madeira-36585489
@Mel Smooth - Bruce Forsyth (if that is who you mean) has never presented on the One Show, been a guest many times but never a presenter.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/cristiano-ronaldo-statue-fire-madeira-36585489
@Mel Smooth - Bruce Forsyth (if that is who you mean) has never presented on the One Show, been a guest many times but never a presenter.
Mel Smooth
Hacker
backwoodsman
Tour Winner
About 15/16 years ago a piece of public art - a Barbara Hepworth sculpture valued at £500,000 - was stolen from Dulwich Park. Scrap value - about £4k. We had a much bigger/better/more important piece - valued at about £2million - just standing, waiting to be nicked. Scrap value about £7k. Had to spend a fortune on security measures.
cliveb
Head Pro
Jail time is not the answer. These scrotes will just learn new ways to be antisocial. And we are short of prison space anyway.
A better approach would be community service that might teach them to respect others' property. Not just a few hours picking up litter, but something significant.
But of course you have to catch them first.
Lucifer MorningStar
Well-known member
In what world would community service work. I grew up in a pretty rough area and all the people I know who got community service learnt sod all and went on to reoffend until they got put away.
Neilds
Assistant Pro
Community service in it's current guise is pointless. It needs to be visible to the public, litter picking, weeding, improving the community - and all whilst wearing a hi-viz vest with Community Service in big letters. Stop pandering to the offenders rights and feelings and make it more of a punishment.
Lucifer MorningStar
Well-known member
That’s kind of my point really. Community service does absolutely nothing as a deterrent, unless it becomes a lot harsher and potentially humiliating because you’re highlighted for doing it then there’s nothing being learned. I know several people that have done it and as I say went on to reoffend, they did a stint inside and now they behave.
We had a neighbour who committed a large benefit fraud. She got given community service working in a charity shop, nobody who went in there knew what she done they instead praised her for giving up her free time and doing such a wonderful thing for charity. She then went onto commit credit card fraud from the details she’d obtained in that charity shop! She never got properly punished for that either just another slap on the wrists and suspended sentence.
The punishment needs to be harsher and fit the crime. Community service needs to be shown to actually be doing something in the community.
Sadly, the re-offending rates suggest that for many getting put away is not the solution either. There is not an easy answer to this.
Lucifer MorningStar
Well-known member
I totally agree but it’s still a bigger deterrent than sending someone to a charity shop which makes them look like a saint, or a bit of litter picking which most of them chin off.
Steve Wilkes
Well-known member
Anyone can make a mistake, some will make two, but after the third, there should be no chance to make a fourth. Not have a rap sheet of 30+ offences
Based on how full our jails are, I'm not sure that is the case. The number that keep going back in, they are not deterred.
As I say, I don't have an easy answer but the current system is not really working.
I'm not disagreeing, but how do we deal with them? We don't have enough jail spaces, enough jails, for those who keep offending.
I'm not suggesting everyone walks around free, skipping after a burglary, but the cycle needs to be broken. Just locking up over and over is not doing the job (although it does keep the public safe whilst they are locked up, no question)
sjw
Well-known member
Bring back the stocks
