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Yeah, I don't see gimme's adding anything, they just cause more issues than they are worth, as stated, if such a gimme, it's a no brainer to put the thing in the hole. We don't have it in stroke play, remove it from match play too.

And slow down play even more? Conceding putts is, and always has been, part of Matchplay.
 
While it wasn't exactly gorgeous sunny weather giving max daylight, it was very very slow play that's been reported as losing the light

Thanks for that. May be in the long term this will do more harm to the game than the kerfuffle about a gimme or not. As if we are at the stage that the game is so slow that they can't finish their matches, then surely it can't make for a great TV spectacle.
 
Thanks for that. May be in the long term this will do more harm to the game than the kerfuffle about a gimme or not. As if we are at the stage that the game is so slow that they can't finish their matches, then surely it can't make for a great TV spectacle.

Agree and with the ad-free coverage I watched of what is after all a limited field event in formats that should be quicker than strokeplay, just made it appear slower (or perhaps showed how slow it really was)

It seemed to be the time spent on greens that passed slowest of all
 
What makes me laugh a few weeks ago a bloke on here got slated after his said a bloke in his club champs forgot to sign is card after the first round but a group of them got together and decided to break the rule out of "sportsmanship" and let him play.

Now the same people are saying rules should be broken for "sportsmanship"

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Yeah, I don't see gimme's adding anything, they just cause more issues than they are worth, as stated, if such a gimme, it's a no brainer to put the thing in the hole. We don't have it in stroke play, remove it from match play too.

I like gimmies... it's nice when you give a few and then at crunch time you ask them to hole one.... perhaps a 2ft'er on the 17th?
It's a tactical game rather than just a 'get the ball in the hole' game just like when they hit it in the rough so you pull out an iron instead, you don't see people doing that in strokeplay.
 
Yeah, I don't see gimme's adding anything, they just cause more issues than they are worth, as stated, if such a gimme, it's a no brainer to put the thing in the hole. We don't have it in stroke play, remove it from match play too.

So your opponent has nailed one 280 yards down the middle and has an 80 yard pitch onto the green.
You have oinked three into the trees and are now playing 7 off the tee.
Do you carry on?
 
So your opponent has nailed one 280 yards down the middle and has an 80 yard pitch onto the green.
You have oinked three into the trees and are now playing 7 off the tee.
Do you carry on?

No, in that scenario I would concede the hole due to the massive shot difference and move on, which I think is different to asking someone to finish their 2 foot put downhill to either win or halve the hole.
 
Is there any clear footage of what Suzanne does right after the putt?

Reports that she turned away?


If she continues to look at the play then I can see why she was so staunchly defending her position. She believed she was in the right and she was. Albeit miles away from play.

Hull's story of going to ask her partner if they should give it or not doesn't cut it for me from the videos I've seen.

Crossed wires all over the shop.
 
Is there any clear footage of what Suzanne does right after the putt?

Reports that she turned away?


If she continues to look at the play then I can see why she was so staunchly defending her position. She believed she was in the right and she was. Albeit miles away from play.

Hull's story of going to ask her partner if they should give it or not doesn't cut it for me from the videos I've seen.

Crossed wires all over the shop.

Inkster said she sort of half turned
 
Is there any clear footage of what Suzanne does right after the putt?

Reports that she turned away?


If she continues to look at the play then I can see why she was so staunchly defending her position. She believed she was in the right and she was. Albeit miles away from play.

Hull's story of going to ask her partner if they should give it or not doesn't cut it for me from the videos I've seen.

Crossed wires all over the shop.

If she wanted to see the putt in, wouldn't it have been clearer all round if she'd been positioned next to her playing partner and told her she couldn't give it?
 
Matchplay without gimme's is just stroke play and would lose most of the appeal for me

So your saying conceding 3 little putts early and then making him putt a 2 footer later on just to see if he can handle a little pressure is why you see matchplay as appealing.
Like a game within a game.

I would find giving a couple short putts early and then asking him to putt a 2ft putt later on a little embarrassing to ask.

Not an argument mate just how I see it.
 
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