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Well Hull and Pettersens caddy would have been, if Lee had gone up and tried to putt out straight away.

Personally it is the lack of sportsmanship that gets me. By the letter of the law they were correct, but it leaves a bad taste. I have a feeling that Hull will regret it for some time. I am so glad that Alison Lee was not the cause of the USA losing the Cup. That would have been great for a 20 year old, in her first year as a pro.

I agree but I think it was all down to Peterson , senior player & C Hull just stayed quiet , wont matter now USA won , be even bigger if that had decided the match
 
Well Hull and Pettersens caddy would have been, if Lee had gone up and tried to putt out straight away.

Personally it is the lack of sportsmanship that gets me. By the letter of the law they were correct, but it leaves a bad taste. I have a feeling that Hull will regret it for some time. I am so glad that Alison Lee was not the cause of the USA losing the Cup. That would have been great for a 20 year old, in her first year as a pro.

Well Lee just walked up to her ball and picked up straight away - not look towards the players and no sign that she was going to putt out or Mark etc

The sportsmanship is an area that is hard to control and find the level - you could say that Lee picking the ball up without clarification and then being allowed to do so is good sportsmanship - but then when do you draw the line between the rules and the sportsmanship ? Maybe she was very inexperienced in matchplay etiquette etc - they said even her PP went to say something to her ?
 
The onus is on the closest player to make the call. Yes, she doesn't have to say put it in but by turning her back on the play it signifies that she thinks it is good.

Crossed wires but hull should have stood her ground if she believed she wanted it holed.
 
Totally agree, the way ( Hull and caddies ) stride off is a clear indication they considered the hole done.

The only clear indication surely is being told it's ok or you FC picking the ball up for you ?
 
The onus is on the closest player to make the call. Yes, she doesn't have to say put it in but by turning her back on the play it signifies that she thinks it is good.

Crossed wires but hull should have stood her ground if she believed she wanted it holed.

:thup:

Not Hull's fault in the slightest, but her walking off gave the indication the putt was good.
 
Its not & I agreed til I saw the video , & I still say play to the rules , but I can see how the American player thought it was conceded

She "assumed" you can't assume anything, even in a friendly knock if my pp walked away from the green I'd ask if it was given before picking up/putting it.

May not be right of him to turn his back and walk away from the green but that's his choice and there's no rule against it.

Has anyone considered Hull was walking to the direction of the tee to try speed things up a little as the games were seriously slow.
 
I agree but I think it was all down to Peterson , senior player & C Hull just stayed quiet , wont matter now USA won , be even bigger if that had decided the match
I fear that it will tarnish Hull's reputation. She didn't look happy afterwards, and if it had been singles I am sure she would have said the putt was fine. Pettersen has a reputation for playing hardball, and Laura Davies said it would be water off a ducks back to her.
 
I fear that it will tarnish Hull's reputation. She didn't look happy afterwards, and if it had been singles I am sure she would have said the putt was fine. Pettersen has a reputation for playing hardball, and Laura Davies said it would be water off a ducks back to her.

Yep once again I agree 100% with that aswel ..
 
That people seem to think that rules should be broken/bent out of sportsmanship/ etiquette.

You do it once and where do you draw the line?

I don't think anyone is suggesting it's OK to break the rules. Conceding putts and sportsmanship are part of matchplay.
 
I fear that it will tarnish Hull's reputation. She didn't look happy afterwards, and if it had been singles I am sure she would have said the putt was fine. Pettersen has a reputation for playing hardball, and Laura Davies said it would be water off a ducks back to her.

Playing hardball but by the rules, I can't see any problem with that.
 
I don't think anyone is suggesting it's OK to break the rules. Conceding putts and sportsmanship are part of matchplay.

It wasn't conceded though!

The ref and all the players/caddies said they never heard anything to say it had been conceded.

She messed up, simple as that.
 
I fear that it will tarnish Hull's reputation. She didn't look happy afterwards, and if it had been singles I am sure she would have said the putt was fine. Pettersen has a reputation for playing hardball, and Laura Davies said it would be water off a ducks back to her.

Looking at some of the tweets she has had from US Players she is ok with them - the media seem to be focusing on Petterson right now.
 
Putt wasn't conceded. US player broke a rule.

Cut and dry. Right?

Yep 100%

BUT

Have the manners /etiquette etc to stand still until your oppo finishes out ..


I was in the "letter of the rules "camp , til I saw the video ..

I accept she may not have said anything , but she was away outa there, happy her opponent missed & delighted with the half
 
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