Solhiem Cup

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Hull and both caddies instantly start walking away. One lingers back as hull completely turns her back.


If you want to see it in there is no way in hell you act like that.


Awful etiquette.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Just watched it again - Hull and Petersons caddy started moving , Hulls caddy stayed there to watch and then put his hands up when she picked the ball up

But the commentator says the ref called th hole then Lee picked the ball up - which looked like shocked Peterson etc so they said they didn't give the putt so the ref called it a win to Europe - has the ref caused the issue ?
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Which is why with that much confusion around, the right thing to do would have been concede the half - even if technically the American had lost the hole on picking the ball up.

Still would have won it down the last, wouldn't have given the Americans any extra incentive in the singles.
 
garyinderry said:
Hull and both caddies instantly start walking away. One lingers back as hull completely turns her back.


If you want to see it in there is no way in hell you act like that.


Awful etiquette.
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Gar I hear what ur saying mate & agree whole heartedly ,all the bad etiquette in the world from an opp doesn't mean you can break a rule tho

Now as I said earlier I haven't seen it yet so im commenting on other peoples comments (not a great idea I know)
 
jp5 said:
Which is why with that much confusion around, the right thing to do would have been concede the half - even if technically the American had lost the hole on picking the ball up.

Still would have won it down the last, wouldn't have given the Americans any extra incentive in the singles.
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I think what makes the issue hard for the Europeans to concede apart from the situation is the player already been warned about it previously twice - how many times did she need to be warned before they finally pulled up on it or do they continue to allow it to happen ?

If she hadn't been warned previously then possibly Peterson would have ignored it ?
 
richart said:
So one player, and the other players caddy both march off, instead of standing still and waiting for Lee to putt out. Sorry that is even worse.
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Yes that's an etiquette issue which is being seen a number of times - just watch the US Amatuer - unless as they said they were moving away and expected her to mark it and line it up as it was over a foot away and at a crucial stage in the match.

I have done it myself - moved to the edge of the green as someone putts out in matchplay.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
I think what makes the issue hard for the Europeans to concede apart from the situation is the player already been warned about it previously twice - how many times did she need to be warned before they finally pulled up on it or do they continue to allow it to happen ?

If she hadn't been warned previously then possibly Peterson would have ignored it ?
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I think it's fine to hold someone to the letter of the law, but to be within a reasonable distance when doing so.

For me, Pettersen should have been where Hull was if she was going to call the penalty. (and not walk away after the first putt)
 
bladeplayer said:
Gar I hear what ur saying mate & agree whole heartedly ,all the bad etiquette in the world from an opp doesn't mean you can break a rule tho

Now as I said earlier I haven't seen it yet so im commenting on other peoples comments (not a great idea I know)
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I have watched it a handful of times. I can completely see why she picked up. if she has been picking up then I would be standing right there to make sure she putts.


It can all be sorted out by waiting for the ref to give you permission once a putt has been conceded. it shouldn't need or come to that.
 
jp5 said:
I think it's fine to hold someone to the letter of the law, but to be within a reasonable distance when doing so.

For me, Pettersen should have been where Hull was if she was going to call the penalty. (and not walk away after the first putt)
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She called it as soon as the ref announced the result of the hole - she was stood there the whole time after she was not in the hole - she was still on the green.

You can't use where Peterson is to judge if she can call the penalty or not

BTW I think this whole discussion and debate is great - good to see it happening without it getting out of hand etc
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Yes that's an etiquette issue which is being seen a number of times - just watch the US Amatuer - unless as they said they were moving away and expected her to mark it and line it up as it was over a foot away and at a crucial stage in the match.

I have done it myself - moved to the edge of the green as someone putts out in matchplay.
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Hopefully not in the line of the person putting.

Do you think this is good for Charlie Hull ? It was obviously going to blow up, and I don't think she wanted anything to do with it. Laura Davies didn't seem surprised Pettersen was involved. I think she is regretting it already, and she seemed very low when playing the singles. She could be remembered for her sportsmanship, but instead she will always be remembered for an unsavoury incident. The media will not let it drop.
 
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richart said:
Hopefully not in the line of the person putting.

Do you think this is good for Charlie Hull ? It was obviously going to blow up, and I don't think she wanted anything to do with it. Laura Davies didn't seem surprised Pettersen was involved. I think she is regretting it already, and she seemed very low when playing the singles. She could be remembered for her sportsmanship, but instead she will always be remembered for an unsavoury incident. The media will not let it drop.
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Of course not in the line of the putt or when they are in the process of putting etc

I don't think Hull has done anything wrong in the whole situation. I think she was very upset about it all because she is still just a teenager at the end of the day.

Possible Peterson could have said "don't worry about it" but after being warned twice already ?
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Of course not in the line of the putt or when they are in the process of putting etc

I don't think Hull has done anything wrong in the whole situation. I think she was very upset about it all because she is still just a teenager at the end of the day.

Possible Peterson could have said "don't worry about it" but after being warned twice already ?
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Well Hull and Pettersens caddy would have been, if Lee had gone up and tried to putt out straight away.

Personally it is the lack of sportsmanship that gets me. By the letter of the law they were correct, but it leaves a bad taste. I have a feeling that Hull will regret it for some time. I am so glad that Alison Lee was not the cause of the USA losing the Cup. That would have been great for a 20 year old, in her first year as a pro.
 
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