Single Figure - Bandit ?

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Played my summer knockout tonight and got turned over 4&3. Given my recent form I'm not overly upset. The guy I played was a 9 handicapper. Good bloke and regular in the first team. By the time we shook hands he was +2 gross. Now given all the debates about handicap's etc would that ever be considered banditry. I didn't think so as it was a) matchplay and b) he plays every event. However and quite tellingly given the furore over higher guys coming in with low scores, a few of the guys were asking him how come he was so low off his handicap.

The guy played great and given my game I was pleased to take him that far. Every time I nicked a hole back to be only one or two down he seemed to birdie one of the next few. I played with him in a stableford at the start of the year and even though he only got 33 in diabolical conditions you could see he was useful especially the short game.

No sour grapes from me but is there ever a case of a single figure being able to be an out and out bandit. In this guys case no way but is it harder to protect your handicap as you come down and does it go on
 
Homer the match finished early at 4&3, who knows how he would have played over the last 3 holes in a medal comp.
I think you should be careful about the bandit comments especially after the Pedro post.
Lets hope Fulham don't lie down at the weekend as they did tonight!!
 
Not calling him a bandit at all and got duffed up fair and square. My question is can a single figure golfer be a bandit. Can you really protect a single figure handicap. This guy is a first team regular and in everything so I caught him on a very good day. We played the rest of the holes and I think he finished +5 without ever trying once the match was over.
 
Perfectly feasible for a single figure to play to a 2 or 3 handicap now and again. I've done it.
If he's regularly shooting that then there might be a case if he's not playing comps - but he is so no issue.

Homer - ok 4&3 but if he was +2 you must have had a decent game by current standards.
The light at the end of the tunnel? :)
Or is it a high-speed train coming the other way? :o
:p
 
I drove the ball really well for me but couldn't hit a green. Too much pressure on a suspect short game. Playing your brother and I think Justoneuk with HTL on Friday so we'll see if there is "oncoming" after that
 
No problem and after the last few days I made sure there was a ? to ensure everyone understands I'm asking a question - NOT MAKING A STATEMENT. A few of the other lower figure guys (5 and down) and one in particular seemed quite vocal on the fact that he was a bandit off that number. I didn't feel it during the game and given he got 4 birdies made me resigned to my fate. My thought is that if you are off a higher handicap there are obviously more shots to play with and so it must be easier to hide behind a higher handicap (hence why everyone accuses the high guys when they have a good day) but can a single figure guy really do the same?
 
Homer I am sitting here shaking my head.

I cant believe you have brought up the bandit stuff again. Before you say you didnt your thread title says it all.

Having brought yourself grief over the pedro thread you go and do it again. Now I enjoy reading your stuff some times and you can try and dress this up any way you want by saying he beat you fair and square but if I was the guy that just stuffed you tonight and then found you used me as an example on a forum with the title bandit? then I would have serious words with you the next time I seen you...you have , whethere you realise or not brought his integrity into question, and that in my book is totally unacceptable, in my opinion.

I dont understand your mentality sometimes and maybe you will try to explain it but as far as I can see you dont think before you type....I am debating as to post this or not, probally will though because I think my opinion is as good as anyones.

I will follow this thread to see how you respond. Trust me this is not meant as a personal attack only I just dont get your thinking sometimes.

Think about how you have brought this guys interigty into question whethere you meant to or not, you have.

Dont know what more to say.......
 
One word after all that has gone before WHY!!!!!

Homer I thought you might have just given up on all this bandit nonsense, is it just that you are now trying to provoke a few members for a laugh?
Everyone that plays golf can shoot a great round now and again regardless of being off 20 or 5, god I've done it myself often enough.
Twice last year I put in medal cards that were 5 under.
Unfortunatly for whatever reason I could not replicate that on a consistent basis and so my handicap eventually rose again. Not once was I accused of being a bandit at the club as most members know I can shoot a good score occasionaly and that I am committed to reducing my handicap.
Is it posible for you to muster up enough common sense to stop using the word bandit in your endless posts on the subject.

Thanks

Toad.
 
Just my 2p worth here, but if he was 5 over theough 18 off 9, that is only 4 under nett? Surely that cannot constitute banditry.. it is just a decent round!
 
I don't see anything wrong with the thread.

If I was the guy mentioned, I wouldn't take offence, it's obvious that it's just his good play that has prompted a more general discussion.

I'm of the opinion that anyone can be a bandit if they regularly score better than their handicap by a significant amount, in games that matter ( ie open comps, etc ) whilst not entering regular medals at their home club.

Being a bandit is a state of mind. A bit like being a hustler. Making sure you have the edge to win when it matters.

There aren't many 18 handicappers that will post a round better than 9 over. Which is the same as a 9 handicapper playing to par. More than possible.

But it's the attitude that goes with it that matters.
 
I played the wednesday medal yesterday with a 14 handicapper. I played like a trumpet and NR'd after only 5 holes! However, the 14 handicapper never missed a shot the whole way round and shot 74-14 = 60!!!

Yes, 60!

Not banditry, but an a amazing (possibly once in a lifetime) score.
 
Just consistency really isn't it?

I had a +1 gross when I was off 10, and I hope to do similar again. I'm off 8, and I don't want to do it to win the prizes (woohoo, £20 to spend in the pro shop), but to get my handicap as low as possible.

It raises a couple of eyebrows when you get stableford scores of 40+, but if you keep practising and improving, it's going to happen - it's the only way we can get to a handicap of 5 or less, which I crave.

So people might call such folk bandits, but it's pretty much a pointless label when I can shoot 40+ on one day, and less than 30 another day - essentially I'm a 'decent but inconsistent golfer' - doesn't quite roll off the tongue so easily.

Sociologists would say the term 'bandit', is a stigma foisted on players who have a) played a one-off good round, or b) hit a bit of a purple patch; by other players, who have played gash, and want to deflect some of their frustration.
 
My question is can a single figure golfer be a bandit.
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In my opinion - No :D



Can you really protect a single figure handicap.
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Yes, this time next year I'll be off 8. In 2011 I'm going to fill my boots with all the Silverware the County has to offer, have my name on the board at my club for all the events and win all my mates money.... all I need to figure out is how to shoot less than 8 over par.... less than 10 would ne nice! :p :p :p
 
I played a guy in one of those newspaper matchplay things a year or two back. Went to play him at his club (Woburn) and off 9 was -1 gross at the turn, having hit all the fairways and green, 5 up in the match and gave him a dog licence. We played in and I would have been +1 or +2 gross. That was in July. Didn't beat my handicap once the rest of the season.

Sometimes it just clicks. But usually not very often.
 
i see your point homer, but it does happen, often i have put in a 2 or 3 over round, got cut, then on the next round, have struggled to break 90! isnt that the beauty of our game?
what i will suggest though, is that some people play better under matchplay conditions, as no pressure on them to put in a score, its all about being one better than the opponent.This in itself can sometimes help the player to relax,and hence, play better golf.
Just a theory though :)
 
what i will suggest though, is that some people play better under matchplay conditions, as no pressure on them to put in a score, its all about being one better than the opponent.
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Totally agree and add that some people also love/perform better in stableford as having one or two blobs on the card holds no fears as they know a few birdies are doable. Swap that to a strokeplay card and the fear of an 8 or several 7's makes them freeze up.
 
Poor Homer. I think he wanted to ask the question about can single figure golfers be bandits hypothetically in order to create debate. Perhaps his example confused people.

If Homer didn't court controversy, it would be such a quiet place! x
 
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