Shrine for the career criminal

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

And so we find a shrine, comprising flowers and messages, being created outside the home of Richard Osborn-Brooks, the 78 yr old pensioner who is not being charged over the death of the career burglar Henry Vincent - a member of a large traveller family

Now what do we think of that?

We must all be allowed to grieve for those we love and lose regardless of who they are or what they have done. And if we are OK with the concept of such 'shrines' being at the place a life is lost - we see them all the time at the side of the road - then outside of this house in a public place?

I'm not a fan of public 'shrines' per se - but a little bit conflicted on this. Would be interesting to know how Mr Osborn-Brooks feels about what happened.

I actually think it's rather grim and gross...despite what I feel loved ones should be able to do to remember their loss - especially given what he had done and the subsequent threats to Mr Osborn-Brooks. But should his loved ones and daughter still be allowed to remember him in this way - his little daughter leaving a card and a teddy bear at the scene of her much loved daddies death.

 

[irip]

May i ask what difference it makes that he comes from a "large traveler family"?

 

[IanM]

On the basis that the site of this this is the victim of an attempted robbery's home, the police should remove it.

But I am sure they won't and the residents will be too intimidated to do so

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

May i ask what difference it makes that he comes from a "large traveler family"?

The trite answer to that question is - because that is how The Sun reported it. That said, what I might think about what might be done about the shrine could well be affected by knowing the background of his family - exactly what @IanM has alluded to.

 

[PhilTheFragger]

Shrine should be removed , it’s reported that the elderly couple involved may have to relocate because of the possibility of a revenge attack.

This is simply wrong,

 

[Leftie]

And I'll let peeps here have one guess as to what subject SILH's hero James O'Brien on LBC was majoring on after 11.00 am this morning!

 

[drdel]

When does dropped/placed flowers (litter) become a shrine?

I suspect the PC fears and the treatment of a 'minority' will prevent common sense prevailing and the victims of the burglary will end up feeling like a victims and be prevented from returning home through no fault of their own.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

And I'll let peeps here have one guess as to what subject SILH's hero James O'Brien on LBC was majoring on after 11.00 am this morning!

Correct...exactly what has prompted my thinking...and O'Brien too is conflicted

 

[Robster59]

It should be removed. If they want a shrine to him, do it at home and not at the scene of his crime.
If we are not careful this criminal will be lionised when at the end of the day it was he who broke into a pensioners house armed and with intent to steal.

 

[USER1999]

Apparently most of it has already been torn down.

 

[Robster59]

Apparently most of it has already been torn down.

I can see this escalating......

 

[hors limite]

I am sorry but a " normal" family would be ashamed of this man. A career criminal who cheated elderly and vulnerable people out of their savings - what a horrible crime. That his family can't see the reality of his awful behaviour only shows that they share his appalling standards.

 

[IanM]

I am sorry but a " normal" family would be ashamed of this man. A career criminal who cheated elderly and vulnerable people out of their savings - what a horrible crime. That his family can't see the reality of his awful behaviour only shows that they share his appalling standards.

yes, sadly

 

[bobmac]

He preyed on the elderly and infirm as he believed as all cowards do that he would encounter little or no resistence.

He got what he deserved and the sooner his little daughter realises what a terrible man her daddy really was the better.
And as for the friends and family are concerned, they should give up the second burglar or face charges.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

...playing devil's advocate. If Mr Osborn-Brooks is sorry about what has happened - that he did not wish Henry Vincent dead - would that change anything?

 

[bobmac]

...playing devil's advocate. If Mr Osborn-Brooks is sorry about what has happened - that he did not wish Henry Vincent dead - would that change anything?

No
One less scum on the streets.
No sympathy

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

No
One less scum on the streets.
No sympathy

Not talking sympathy - just wondering who would be offended by the shrine if Mr Osborn-Brook was not. Would his wishes take precedence over the feelings of everyone else.

 

[hors limite]

Not talking sympathy - just wondering who would be offended by the shrine if Mr Osborn-Brook was not. Would his wishes take precedence over the feelings of everyone else.

I don't see the point of this "what iffery". A man who has systematically preyed upon the elderly, weak and vulnerable doesn't deserve a "shrine" and that his deluded family and friends can't see that tells you all you need to know.

 

[bobmac]

Not talking sympathy - just wondering who would be offended by the shrine if Mr Osborn-Brook was not. Would his wishes take precedence over the feelings of everyone else.

Mr Osborn-Brook gave his permission to have the flowers taken down so there is no question and I don't like this floral display being referred to as a shrine as it has no religious significance.

 

[USER1999]

I don't see the point of this "what iffery". A man who has systematically preyed upon the elderly, weak and vulnerable doesn't deserve a "shrine" and that his deluded family and friends can't see that tells you all you need to know.

It appears that most of his deluded friends and familly have been banged up for similar crimes. It is the familly career path. None of them are any different.