Should the number of foreign players be limited in the Premier League

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Liverpoolphil said:
So why when there were no foreign players in the Top league through the 70's 80's 90's did the national teams not win anything of note ?

Having the top foreign players in the league should help the youngsters - they have the best players to learn from , the best coaches to learn from.

It's always the easy excuse that foreign players are to blame for poor England teams when the issue is far deeping that and it can followed all the way back to the FA

If you remove the foreign players or limit them then all the top players will move to leagues without restrictions and then the money follows then the league just falls down
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Five foreign players on the pitch is still nearly half the team, so that is still an incentive to foreign players to come here, particularly with the ridiculous salaries some of them get paid! Remember that Leicester City won the PL last season with mainly home grown players.
 
delc said:
In my opinion Yes! Premier League football teams should be limited to no more that 5 foreign players on the pitch at any time. That way more British players would have a chance of being involved in top level football, to the benefit of our National teams.
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Wide of the mark as usual. The issue starts with with our coaching system which places a premium on size over skill. Whilst there may be more English players playing in the top league, the level of that top league in comparison to others would be diminished.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
So why when there were no foreign players in the Top league through the 70's 80's 90's did the national teams not win anything of note ?

Having the top foreign players in the league should help the youngsters - they have the best players to learn from , the best coaches to learn from.

It's always the easy excuse that foreign players are to blame for poor England teams when the issue is far deeping that and it can followed all the way back to the FA

If you remove the foreign players or limit them then all the top players will move to leagues without restrictions and then the money follows then the league just falls down
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But by no means could all the foreign players in the PL be described as top players. Even some of those at the top six clubs could only be described as ordinary.

If some of those were not involved the clubs might actually give chances to some of their younger home grown players. Mind you the academies have not had a great record in producing players despite the clubs chucking plenty of money into the system.
 
delc said:
Five foreign players on the pitch is still nearly half the team, so that is still an incentive to foreign players to come here, particularly with the ridiculous salaries some of them get paid! Remember that Leicester City won the PL last season with mainly home grown players.
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What? you mean Kante, Mahrez, Okazaki, Fuchs, Huth and Ulloa are home grown, and Schmeichel and Morgan are not eligible for the national team.

They would not have met your suggested benchmark as usually the only English players in their starting line-up were Simpson, Drinkwater, Albrighton and Vardy.
 
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delc said:
Five foreign players on the pitch is still nearly half the team, so that is still an incentive to foreign players to come here, particularly with the ridiculous salaries some of them get paid! Remember that Leicester City won the PL last season with mainly home grown players.
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that same team now looks destined for doom.

Id also query "mainly homegrown"

http://www.skysports.com/football/n...er-players-get-a-premier-league-winners-medal

those with 20 appearances plus I'd consider regular. Are half even British?

7 from 27 is it? Yeah, that's an abundance!
 
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Why do we need all European clubs and leagues to agree with the EPL on player quota.. I thought our days of agreeing within anything European are behind us and that we are going to forge our own destiny....

The Indian IPL does not seem to be too bothered about other leagues when they decided on the rule. The money associated with the IPL means it only takes the best in the world - not the whole world itself. Those who cant get into the IPL end up joining the Big Bash, Caribbean league, the Pakistani League etc. Equally it is funny to see how the foreign players who are in the IPL end up playing all the other leagues too e.g. Gayle - which speaks volumes about who the best players in that format are.

In theory, if we moved to a format of having not more than 5 foreign players on the field, what will change. Some players will leave and go to other leagues. Would that destroy the EPL? I doubt it. It is easier for some of the European players, but we could still get good players out of Africa, South America etc. Equally some of the players may trickle down to lower leagues which means, football at lower leagues might become more exciting. By all means have the best coaches, trainers etc. You could even start with asking T May to restrict clubs to restrict the number of foreign players to 7-8 on the field to begin with. Why is this such a problem?
 
vkurup said:
Why do we need all European clubs and leagues to agree with the EPL on player quota.. I thought our days of agreeing within anything European are behind us and that we are going to forge our own destiny....
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Because the EPL wouldn't weaken itself in relation to the rest of Europe so we'd need it to be a whole UEFA thing for it to ever be considered.
 
vkurup said:
Why do we need all European clubs and leagues to agree with the EPL on player quota.. I thought our days of agreeing within anything European are behind us and that we are going to forge our own destiny....

The Indian IPL does not seem to be too bothered about other leagues when they decided on the rule. The money associated with the IPL means it only takes the best in the world - not the whole world itself. Those who cant get into the IPL end up joining the Big Bash, Caribbean league, the Pakistani League etc. Equally it is funny to see how the foreign players who are in the IPL end up playing all the other leagues too e.g. Gayle - which speaks volumes about who the best players in that format are.

In theory, if we moved to a format of having not more than 5 foreign players on the field, what will change. Some players will leave and go to other leagues. Would that destroy the EPL? I doubt it. It is easier for some of the European players, but we could still get good players out of Africa, South America etc. Equally some of the players may trickle down to lower leagues which means, football at lower leagues might become more exciting. By all means have the best coaches, trainers etc. You could even start with asking T May to restrict clubs to restrict the number of foreign players to 7-8 on the field to begin with. Why is this such a problem?
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We are members of UEFA and FIFA which means we agree to abide by there rules, the Cricket leagues are stand alone, we would not be able to enter any Euro or World comps if we weren't a member,
 
It needs to be restricted to three only! Then we would only have THE best available. Although Sky/BT would not chuck quite so much dosh at it. Who cares if we wouldn't win the CL? Surely the domestic championship is far more important.
On another point, is anyone who voted out of the EU concerned over the amount of immigrants being imported to play football? These players are now percolating down the leagues as far as the National League. So just where are the English / British players supposed to get a game? They are getting less opportunity and this will eventually wipe out the "National Game".
 
vkurup said:
Why do we need all European clubs and leagues to agree with the EPL on player quota.. I thought our days of agreeing within anything European are behind us and that we are going to forge our own destiny....
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Because our clubs want to compete in the big European Comps
The Indian IPL does not seem to be too bothered about other leagues when they decided on the rule. The money associated with the IPL means it only takes the best in the world - not the whole world itself. Those who cant get into the IPL end up joining the Big Bash, Caribbean league, the Pakistani League etc. Equally it is funny to see how the foreign players who are in the IPL end up playing all the other leagues too e.g. Gayle - which speaks volumes about who the best players in that format are.
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The IPL is full of corruption - how many teams have been kicked out. The Big Bash is a far better Comp and not a rich boys play thing which is exactly what the IPL is

In theory, if we moved to a format of having not more than 5 foreign players on the field, what will change. Some players will leave and go to other leagues. Would that destroy the EPL? I doubt it. It is easier for some of the European players, but we could still get good players out of Africa, South America etc. Equally some of the players may trickle down to lower leagues which means, football at lower leagues might become more exciting. By all means have the best coaches, trainers etc. You could even start with asking T May to restrict clubs to restrict the number of foreign players to 7-8 on the field to begin with. Why is this such a problem?
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Restrict the amount of players arriving then players would go to leagues where there is no restrictions - the money then follows them.

A sport club should be able to buy and play whoever they want - they want to see the best not players picked based on their nationality. A player should always be picked and played on ability only
 
MetalMickie said:
What? you mean Kante, Mahrez, Okazaki, Fuchs, Huth and Ulloa are home grown, and Schmeichel and Morgan are not eligible for the national team.

They would not have met your suggested benchmark as usually the only English players in their starting line-up were Simpson, Drinkwater, Albrighton and Vardy.
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Not right, both Morgan and Schmeichel were eligable to play for England, until they made the choice to play for the home of their parents/grandparents. To know whether they would fit Delc's critiria he would need to be a more precise with his definition of "foreign", but as Morgan was born in Nottingham and did not play for Jamaica until he was 29 I am pretty sure he would be eligable.
 
doublebogey7 said:
Not right, both Morgan and Schmeichel were eligable to play for England, until they made the choice to play for the home of their parents/grandparents. To know whether they would fit Delc's critiria he would need to be a more precise with his definition of "foreign", but as Morgan was born in Nottingham and did not play for Jamaica until he was 29 I am pretty sure he would be eligable.
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Difficult to see how Schmeicel was eligible for England as he was born in Copenhagen to Danish parents and has played for Denmark from U-19 upwards.
 
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MetalMickie said:
Difficult to see how Schmeicel was eligible for England as he was born in Copenhagen to Danish parents and has played for Denmark from U-19 upwards.
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Simply, as he spent almost all of his Youth in England whilst his dad plied his trade for Man U, he qualifies under FIFA' s residency rules. Although he played for Denmark's youth team he could have played for England at senior level provided he declared his wish to before he was 21.
 
MetalMickie said:
Difficult to see how Schmeicel was eligible for England as he was born in Copenhagen to Danish parents and has played for Denmark from U-19 upwards.
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Was it the 5 year residency rule? I have no idea specifically about Schmeichel but remember something similar about Nacho Novo becoming eligible to play for Scotland after 5 years in Scotland.
 
doublebogey7 said:
Simply, as he spent almost all of his Youth in England whilst his dad plied his trade for Man U, he qualifies under FIFA' s residency rules. Although he played for Denmark's youth team he could have played for England at senior level provided he declared his wish to before he was 21.
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Whilst I agree Regards to Morgan, Kasparov is Danish.

Just be because he could play for England. Doesn't make him English, he was born in Copenhagen and has danish parents.

Either way, I'm sure certain he isn't the kind of home grown delc wishes for.
 
Papas1982 said:
Whilst I agree Regards to Morgan, Kasparov is Danish.

Just be because he could play for England. Doesn't make him English, he was born in Copenhagen and has danish parents.

Either way, I'm sure certain he isn't the kind of home grown delc wishes for.
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That is the craziest auto-correct I've ever seen, and Imurg's takes some beating!
 
We used to have the three foreigner rule. Or as we knew it in Scotland, the eight diddies rule.

Never really helped much back then so not sure it would help anyone now. Mostly the same coutries still compete for the major honours.
 
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