Bunkermagnet
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In what way?
I don’t recall running away to bear children to support a terrorist organisation, unless of course you know different?
should she be allowed back in the UK?
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I don’t recall running away to bear children to support a terrorist organisation, unless of course you know different?
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I forgot the smiley in my first post to indicate that I was in no way serious with that ridiculous statement.
Here's two to make it up!
Bunkermagnet
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No probs m8, I said something equally as ridiculous early on this subject myself.I forgot the smiley in my first post to indicate that I was in no way serious with that ridiculous statement.
Here's two to make it up!
MegaSteve
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Apologies if it has already been said...
I'd, perhaps, be in favour of trialling a 'people's assembly' on this question... Certainly wouldn't leave it in the hands of government or courts...
I'd, perhaps, be in favour of trialling a 'people's assembly' on this question... Certainly wouldn't leave it in the hands of government or courts...
Kellfire
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Another ridiculous idea. Let’s ignore law and order in favour of a baying mob and lynch squads.
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Sorry but why ? The law is already there to deal with this issue - both international law and UK law
People assembly ? What will that achieve - just giving power to lynch mobs - the public will sit on a jury it goes it court
For me, in regards to the op and SHOULD she be allowed back. I'd say no, but accept that from a legal perspective she can be.
That said, if she comes back he and then doesn't face any consequences which imo should be jail time and kid taken off her, then i think the law needs changing.
That said, if she comes back he and then doesn't face any consequences which imo should be jail time and kid taken off her, then i think the law needs changing.
I guess the fact she ignored law and order and chose baying mobs, lynch squads and thinks beheading is normal behaviour is ok
MegaSteve
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Gosh... You have an overly low opinion of your fellow human beings...
We have a very diverse society here in the UK... You just make sure that diversity is honestly represented on the assembly...
Kellfire
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All of those are irrelevant to your point.
SocketRocket
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He never mentioned or intended to suggest we have a baying mob and lynch squad and you know it.
Blue in Munich
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With that in mind, how many of us are as guilty as her because we believed Tony Blair's propaganda regarding Saddam Hussein and his weapons of mass destruction? We, who are surely much better placed than a 15 year old schoolgirl to make such a decision, fell for it hook line & sinker. and went to war on the basis of that propaganda. Have we actually done anything much different to her?
Perhaps this lady is better placed than all of us to pass judgement;
https://news.sky.com/story/former-is-bride-urges-uk-to-show-shamima-begum-mercy-11640932
Kellfire
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Yep, sure. I bet his idea is to have the general public behave in exactly the way the judiciary would...
Sigh, I know you don't believe what you're saying but you have to back someone with the same opinion as you.
SocketRocket
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She must have been capable of reasoned thought, people want 16 year olds to get the vote, they are free to marry at 16. What did she think becoming a jihadi bride would entail, Im sure she didn't think she would be living in a bungalow with a nice garden while hubby popped out to work and came home each eving at six o clock for his tea. She must have understood that she would be prostituted to some vicious terrorist killer who would use her for his own pleasure and as a by product knock out a new generation of ISIS monsters, bit late now to plead its not turned out quite as she expected.
We will probably end up taking her back and spending very large amounts of money trying to deradicalise her but with the knowledge that she may well walk out one day with a bomb strapped to her of a knife in her hand. If her child stays with her we will also have the same concerns for them, probably best they are seperated, however heartless that may seem we must consider the safety of the public above her at all costs.
My preference is if these people must come back we create a prison on somewhere like South Georgia for them to serve out their very long sentences where they are not able to influence others.
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MegaSteve
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I would expect the general public to be more than capable of behaving way above the capabilities of much of our judiciary...
SocketRocket
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Oh! I certainly do believe what I'm saying and dont need to back anyone, I posted what I did as your suggestion of a baying mob and lynch squad was wrong.
Foxholer
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Seems to me that it's actually a fairly reasonable description of how 'society' has acted for centuries! The punishment of and attendance at executions involving 'Hung Drawn and Quartered, then Head displayed on a spike' for certain crimes is an example!
And especially with the influence of so much of 'the Press' these days!
It's certainly proper, imo, for 'the authorities' to apply Laws the validity of which can subsequently be 'tested' in Courts. Anything else smacks of Totalitarianism (or at least Authoritarianism) imo.
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MegaSteve
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Think we've come a long way... In 1815 there were 288 ways the death penalty could be applied...
hovis
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This makes me laugh. Girl joins terrorists organisation and thinks nothing of walking past a severed head in a bin but we should forgive her. Liam neeson "says" for one week he wanted to kill a black man yet he should never work again and boycott his films
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Have people actually been saying we should forgive ?
I also think the severed head thing is being a bit overplayed - it’s prob down to a lot of de sensitised and being numb possibly after seeing lots of horrors ?
