should she be allowed back in the UK?

[hovis]

Have people actually been saying we should forgive ?

I also think the severed head thing is being a bit overplayed - it’s prob down to a lot of de sensitised and being numb possibly after seeing lots of horrors ?

Yeh, loads of people saying that she can be rehabilitated into society and what av ya.

Personally I think not only will she be allowed back into the country but she'll get a lovely council house and maximum benefits for her child too. All paid for by us lot of course

 

[Pathetic Shark]

And appear on the 2022 edition of Strictly Come Dancing on Ice.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Yeh, loads of people saying that she can be rehabilitated into society and what av ya.

Personally I think not only will she be allowed back into the country but she'll get a lovely council house and maximum benefits for her child too. All paid for by us lot of course

Thats what will happen if when they investigate her and no terrorist activity is proved etc then she will go back into society but thats not people saying forgive her etc

And as for all the benefits etc - she will only get that if they dont charge etc and she will join a long list of people that a lot think dont deserve them.

She could just as easily end up rotting in jail.

 

[3offTheTee]

Think we've come a long way... In 1815 there were 288 ways the death penalty could be applied...

You should not be watching The Chase at this time of night!!

 

[Foxholer]

Think we've come a long way... In 1815 there were 288 ways the death penalty could be applied...

Are you sure it wasn't simply mis-reported as 'too gross'?

 

[Pin-seeker]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/columnists/article-6718019/Dont-let-women-wedded-terror-come-home.html

 

[Sweep]

Had to chuckle today. Devils advocate click bait human rights lawyer from Scotland on Sky News quickly back tracking on a claim he said he had sympathy with, that she was like a WW1 conscript returning with shell shock. I am not usually a fan of Sky News anchors but this guy put him right back in his box. Also seemed to have an issue that she may have been radicalised by males. Clearly that’s much worse than being radicalised by females 🤔. He also seemed very keen to tell us what the British people believed in, completely ignoring that fact that clearly the vast majority believe she shouldn’t be allowed back.
Other than that he was saying more or less what LP has been saying all along. Which made me wonder if this bloke was only qualified to post on here or LP has missed his way as a human rights lawyer 😀
Of course, both could be true.

 

[Beezerk]

Not sure if it's been mentioned but her comments on the Manchester bombing aren't great, in fact utterly disgusting.

 

[Tashyboy]

Not sure if it's been mentioned but her comments on the Manchester bombing aren't great, in fact utterly disgusting.

No it hasn't, don't think her PR person is doing a great job. Yet she can be re educated. Read a clip of her new legal eagle. He has history of representing ex ISIS brides.
Gonna shut up before an infraction comes through the post.

 

[SocketRocket]

Have people actually been saying we should forgive ?

I also think the severed head thing is being a bit overplayed - it’s prob down to a lot of de sensitised and being numb possibly after seeing lots of horrors ?

Oh! thats OK then and I was thinking it was some poor persons head that had been cut off. I guess you see one head off then youve seen them all 🙄

 

[bobmac]

She said she knew they beheaded people before she went out but was told it was ok because it was part of their religion.

Interview

 

[Dan2501]

She was also seemingly relaxed over the brutality of IS rule, which included beheadings.

She said: "Yeah, I knew about those things and I was okay with it.

"From what I heard, Islamically that is all allowed so I was okay with it."

What a stupid thing to say, hasn't exactly covered herself in light with the things she's said in the press.

 

[bobmac]

She said she knew they beheaded people before she went out but was told it was ok because it was part of their religion.

Interview

If you watch the interview, a couple of things stand out for me.

A complete lack of interest in her new born son, she wouldn't even hold him.
Secondly, she enjoyed her time living in Syria right up until the end when her children died and she was starving.
No remorse whatsoever.
If she does return to the UK, it would be interesting to see if she stays with Islam

 

[Sweep]

Something occurred to me this morning. Here we have this woman, making seemingly incendiary (no pun intended) statements, claiming she has no regrets, showing no remorse, unfazed by beheadings, allegedly naming her new born son after a murderer of Jews etc etc and saying that the UK should show her compassion and take her back.
It strikes me this is all a bit too provocative. Surely someone who wanted to come back would have reigned it in a little? At least make some attempt to win hearts and minds?
Now, let’s imagine what would be advantageous to an organisation like ISIS. I would imagine dividing opinion amongst non Muslims would be pretty high on their list. In that regard, this case fits the bill perfectly.
And yet today, I read she is ready to go to prison in the UK. Not a nice option but if you imagine the world she lives in, where suicide vests are commonplace, serving the caliphate with a stint behind bars in a UK prison, probably with others of a similar persuasion, is probably quite a soft option.
In Britain we do this everyday. Someone plays devils advocate on the TV, radio or in the press to stir up debate and provoke emotion. Think Jeremy Vine, Talk Radio, LBC, Sky News and BBC Press Previews. We even do it on here. An emotive case like this is perfect fodder for this type of coverage.
Maybe too perfect.
Maybe made for it.
Nothing stirs debate like the right “hang ‘em and flog ‘em” brigade v liberal do-gooders and the media has lapped it up. An organisation like ISIS would have known they would. Everyday there is another angle. Everyday she has said something else. Everyday she causes more outrage.
Today, just as it’s getting old news I read she says the Manchester bombing was justified. Shock! Horror! It all seems a little stage managed, designed to keep her in the news.
Remember, when these 3 schoolgirls ran off to Syria it was big news. A big coup for ISIS. Right from the start her story caused debate. Do we really think they are not going to exploit her now? Is anyone else wondering how she got her story out to the press? One young woman in a refugee camp of thousands?
Maybe, just maybe, we are all being played like a fish. And maybe every one of us has swallowed it. Hook, line and sinker.

 

[Dibby]

Something occurred to me this morning. Here we have this woman, making seemingly incendiary (no pun intended) statements, claiming she has no regrets, showing no remorse, unfazed by beheadings, allegedly naming her new born son after a murderer of Jews etc etc and saying that the UK should show her compassion and take her back.
It strikes me this is all a bit too provocative. Surely someone who wanted to come back would have reigned it in a little? At least make some attempt to win hearts and minds?
Now, let’s imagine what would be advantageous to an organisation like ISIS. I would imagine dividing opinion amongst non Muslims would be pretty high on their list. In that regard, this case fits the bill perfectly.
And yet today, I read she is ready to go to prison in the UK. Not a nice option but if you imagine the world she lives in, where suicide vests are commonplace, serving the caliphate with a stint behind bars in a UK prison, probably with others of a similar persuasion, is probably quite a soft option.
In Britain we do this everyday. Someone plays devils advocate on the TV, radio or in the press to stir up debate and provoke emotion. Think Jeremy Vine, Talk Radio, LBC, Sky News and BBC Press Previews. We even do it on here. An emotive case like this is perfect fodder for this type of coverage.
Maybe too perfect.
Maybe made for it.
Nothing stirs debate like the right “hang ‘em and flog ‘em” brigade v liberal do-gooders and the media has lapped it up. An organisation like ISIS would have known they would. Everyday there is another angle. Everyday she has said something else. Everyday she causes more outrage.
Today, just as it’s getting old news I read she says the Manchester bombing was justified. Shock! Horror! It all seems a little stage managed, designed to keep her in the news.
Remember, when these 3 schoolgirls ran off to Syria it was big news. A big coup for ISIS. Right from the start her story caused debate. Do we really think they are not going to exploit her now? Is anyone else wondering how she got her story out to the press? One young woman in a refugee camp of thousands?
Maybe, just maybe, we are all being played like a fish. And maybe every one of us has swallowed it. Hook, line and sinker.

I prefer to apply Occams razor in situations like this.

Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem

Basically, don't use more than is necessary.

There doesn't need to be a complex reason, she is just keeping herself relevant.

 

[IanM]

Nope. Still no.

I wonder what you actually have to do before certain folk say "enough!!"

 

[Fade and Die]

Two weeks of living back in Tower Hamlets and she'll be missing the Syrian refugee camp

 

[Blue in Munich]

Two weeks of living back in Tower Hamlets and she'll be missing the Syrian refugee camp

That long? She’s obviously made of stern stuff

 

[USER1999]

I just think she is more than a bit thick.

 

[Doh]

I just think she is more than a bit thick.

I agree Chris she is to dumb to know what deplomacy is.