should she be allowed back in the UK?

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This news has of course reached Sweden as we also have our fair share of IS "activists" (yes, that's what the Swedish equivalent to BBC called them just the other day) that are now stuck in camps etc.

One Swedish Tory MP in particular is now in the line of fire from all liberal do-gooders as he called the IS-butchers "cry babies" on twitter now that they've lost their beloved caliphate and wants to come home to the safety and well fare payments, courtesy of the tax payers.

He is of course just as bad or worse than those who traveled thousands of miles to join a murderous sect and he's a massive threat to the Swedish debate climate according to these princesses sitting up in their ivory towers and spreading all of their goodness to the peasants who don't understand better.

Truly makes me sick.
 
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I am reading lots of bad stuff about Sweden on Internet. Mainstream Media in UK reports none of it.

Truth certainly somewhere in between, I wonder which end of the continuum it is?

Let's just say that it's not going in the right direction. If I am to be diplomatic.
 

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According to her lawyer, the Home Office have written to the family saying they intend to deprive her of her British Citizenship.....
 
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According to her lawyer, the Home Office have written to the family saying they intend to deprive her of her British Citizenship.....

I’m the midst of all doom and gloom finally some good news!

But I’ll wait with the champagne for now...
 
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According to her lawyer, the Home Office have written to the family saying they intend to deprive her of her British Citizenship.....

The Home Secretary said he was going to remove it - looks like he has down , let’s hope they have done it legally because they are going to be very embarrassed if it needs to be overturned because they have left her stateless ( against international law ) - and why just this girl , why not all the others they allowed in. Are they using this as some good PR whilst all this Brexit stuff is going on ? And sending a letter ?! Doesn’t seem right

It also goes against why the Justice Sec and Head of MI6 have said - is this all down to just the Home Sec making his own decision ?
 

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Let's just say that it's not going in the right direction. If I am to be diplomatic.

Lily me man, my knowledge on Sweedish politics is up there with birdies on our 18th, non existant. What's going wrong in what is in my view a liberal country.
 

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The Home Secretary said he was going to remove it - looks like he has down , let’s hope they have done it legally because they are going to be very embarrassed if it needs to be overturned because they have left her stateless ( against international law ) - and why just this girl , why not all the others they allowed in. Are they using this as some good PR whilst all this Brexit stuff is going on ? And sending a letter ?! Doesn’t seem right

It also goes against why the Justice Sec and Head of MI6 have said - is this all down to just the Home Sec making his own decision ?
It looks like they have done it legally. The letter outlines her right to appeal.
I don’t think any government would be embarrassed about doing the right thing and suggesting they are doing it as a PR stunt is, to use your words, poor.
TBH it sounds like you are disappointed.
 

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Did hear she was offered a house in Mansfield but she decided to stay in the camp in Syria.

That aside Phil, I think this case is a bit unique in the sense of the story behind the three girls going in the first place. Because she then decided she wanted to come "home". When she had married into ISIS. Had three kids, no remorse etc etc. I think this case has rightly bogged off a few people. Being a " Manc" I can assure you the emotions of what went of at The Arianne Grande concert are still very raw. Her comments in the North West have not done her case any good.. You are correct that many terrorists have come back to England, some have been arrested and others not. But is there case slightly differant that they were stood on British soil when arrested as against Missis Terrorist stated in Syria she wants to come home.
 
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Did hear she was offered a house in Mansfield but she decided to stay in the camp in Syria.

That aside Phil, I think this case is a bit unique in the sense of the story behind the three girls going in the first place. Because she then decided she wanted to come "home". When she had married into ISIS. Had three kids, no remorse etc etc. I think this case has rightly bogged off a few people. Being a " Manc" I can assure you the emotions of what went of at The Arianne Grande concert are still very raw. Her comments in the North West have not done her case any good.. You are correct that many terrorists have come back to England, some have been arrested and others not. But is there case slightly differant that they were stood on British soil when arrested as against Missis Terrorist stated in Syria she wants to come home.

I think this is all going to turn into a complete mess - just looking at the legal stand point and listening to a lawyer before a person is left stateless lots of things need to happen first - stuff that needs to happen with her face to face as well , she has to also have another nationality which she doesn’t and they have to seem she is a severe threat to National Security ie immediate threat and the country under attack - that’s not happening from her.

It seems like after reading what you can see from the letter this is a decision made solely by the Home Secretary and against what both MI6 and the Justice department , it all seems very hurried and emotive based on the public opinion and it’s very dangerous. Legally I don’t believe the Home Secretary can’t act like he just has done and this could be damaging and be counter productive.

The public will celebrate but imagine the reaction when it gets over turned because it’s not lawful
 

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The Home Secretary said he was going to remove it - looks like he has down , let’s hope they have done it legally because they are going to be very embarrassed if it needs to be overturned because they have left her stateless ( against international law ) - and why just this girl , why not all the others they allowed in. Are they using this as some good PR whilst all this Brexit stuff is going on ? And sending a letter ?! Doesn’t seem right

It also goes against why the Justice Sec and Head of MI6 have said - is this all down to just the Home Sec making his own decision ?

Yeah Phil out of all of this,
that’s the part that doesn’t seem right 🙄
 

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Home Secretaries Letter: “If you in touch with your daughter...”
😁 they should have just sent it via Sky News or any of the other media that have been falling over themselves to interview her this past week.
 

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I think this is all going to turn into a complete mess - just looking at the legal stand point and listening to a lawyer before a person is left stateless lots of things need to happen first - stuff that needs to happen with her face to face as well , she has to also have another nationality which she doesn’t and they have to seem she is a severe threat to National Security ie immediate threat and the country under attack - that’s not happening from her.

It seems like after reading what you can see from the letter this is a decision made solely by the Home Secretary and against what both MI6 and the Justice department , it all seems very hurried and emotive based on the public opinion and it’s very dangerous. Legally I don’t believe the Home Secretary can’t act like he just has done and this could be damaging and be counter productive.

The public will celebrate but image the reaction when it gets over turned because it’s not lawful
I doubt the government will have made it public in such a manner without being 110% certain they are correct in the process and the position is watertight. I can't see it being overturned anytime soon. You have been talking throughout (post #322 as an example) from some sort of position of absolute certainty. How do you know a deal hasn't been done with Syria or another country to take her as their national?
 

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Did hear she was offered a house in Mansfield but she decided to stay in the camp in Syria.

That aside Phil, I think this case is a bit unique in the sense of the story behind the three girls going in the first place. Because she then decided she wanted to come "home". When she had married into ISIS. Had three kids, no remorse etc etc. I think this case has rightly bogged off a few people. Being a " Manc" I can assure you the emotions of what went of at The Arianne Grande concert are still very raw. Her comments in the North West have not done her case any good.. You are correct that many terrorists have come back to England, some have been arrested and others not. But is there case slightly differant that they were stood on British soil when arrested as against Missis Terrorist stated in Syria she wants to come home.
There's a video doing the rounds on Facebook of a female [ allegedly her ] cutting a man's throat while he's lying face down with his hands tied behind his back.
 
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