mansell
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And who has said anything about "prime tee slots"
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And who has said anything about "prime tee slots"
Smiffy
Grand Slam Winner
Hey calm down fella!!
I think the first post intimated that it was a Saturday morning? To me, that is a "prime slot".
If it was 3 O'clock in the afternoon I couldn't care less if the household cavalry went out one by one.
mansell
Head Pro
hey no need for me to calm down fella
I've got my opinions on this, and no club will tell me who I am playing with.
Smiffy
Grand Slam Winner
You obviously have!
I haven't said anywhere that it was OK for them to do that. I said in my first response that they could have contact the OP to tell him what they were planning on doing. To give him a choice.
But if I turned up on the first tee with some mates to play and there were 12 people standing there waiting to tee off, I'd feel a little cheesed off if they all went out one after the other playing on their own rather than two, three or four balls. Even more so if it was a Saturday morning!!
That's the point I was trying to make.
Cernunnos
Journeyman Pro
It is a good point about busy times during weekends etc. Though I really doubt there would be 10 singles in a row at any time of any day in a row.
If groups were singles & twos, then groups would certainly move much faster than the average fourball. I really do think its a false econemy on any club by insisting upon four ball groups.
It would certainly be nice to be given the option of as to whether or not to be joined up or not when we make a booking.
If I really wanted to play somewhere & teetimes were at a premium, then in order to play I'd be happy to join up with others, but only if its alright with the members of that group & not simply because its a stipulation of the club.
mansell
Head Pro
Smiffy I know what you are saying, but like you I am making the point that no club would tell me who to play with
User 105
Journeyman Pro
I can see both sides on this fellas.
If it'd have been told when I joined that if it got really busy then sometimes they'd join me up with another group then I wouldn't mind. I'd know where I stand.
On Sat and Sun AM it's members only. And I do understand that the last thing they want is 10 1 balls out there, but that's unlikely to happen.
But I do realise this so if I book on my own I tend to book an early tee time, 7:30 or 8am when things are quite quiet.
And most of the times I have played on my own, I've either ended up joining up with another group on the tee or some way round the course. But it was my choice to do so.
As I said it's more the way this was done rather than anything else.
If it'd have been told when I joined that if it got really busy then sometimes they'd join me up with another group then I wouldn't mind. I'd know where I stand.
On Sat and Sun AM it's members only. And I do understand that the last thing they want is 10 1 balls out there, but that's unlikely to happen.
But I do realise this so if I book on my own I tend to book an early tee time, 7:30 or 8am when things are quite quiet.
And most of the times I have played on my own, I've either ended up joining up with another group on the tee or some way round the course. But it was my choice to do so.
As I said it's more the way this was done rather than anything else.
mono217
Journeyman Pro
If the groups get put together its a chance to meet new people.
Cernunnos
Journeyman Pro
Very true & is something good about golf, but it is nice to be given this as an option, not a stipulation.
User 105
Journeyman Pro
It's an expectation thing.
If you say one thing then do something else, people are bound to be unhappy about it.
It's something I always say to my guys at work. If you agree to do something one way for a customer, if you have to do it another way, even if it is better, then talk to the customer before you do it.
What you think is better might not be what the customer thinks is better !
If you say one thing then do something else, people are bound to be unhappy about it.
It's something I always say to my guys at work. If you agree to do something one way for a customer, if you have to do it another way, even if it is better, then talk to the customer before you do it.
What you think is better might not be what the customer thinks is better !
medwayjon
Tour Winner
Can see both sides to this debate.
I wouldnt expect to be allowed to go off as a single on a saturday/sunday morning as these are the "prime" tee-times and as such, many members will want to utilise them so having a 1-ball go out is effectively preventing 3 others from getting out. Thats why many clubs have protected tee-times where they try an make up 4-balls.
I have been known to enjoy going out on my own sometimes, whether it be to practice or even if I am just pi$$ed off in general and want a bit of quiet time on my own.
I would make the most of this westy, get the cards signed and put in for your handicap and take the opportunity to meet other members and hopefully make good golfing pals.
I dont agree with the staunch stance some adopt of "Ive paid my money so I will do as I please"
At the end of the day a club should be run for the benefit of the members and allowing singles out at prime-times doesnt benefit the majority. If they are the rules then Im afraid you will get told who to play with and if not agreeable to that, you wont play. There is always a bigger picture.
I wouldnt expect to be allowed to go off as a single on a saturday/sunday morning as these are the "prime" tee-times and as such, many members will want to utilise them so having a 1-ball go out is effectively preventing 3 others from getting out. Thats why many clubs have protected tee-times where they try an make up 4-balls.
I have been known to enjoy going out on my own sometimes, whether it be to practice or even if I am just pi$$ed off in general and want a bit of quiet time on my own.
I would make the most of this westy, get the cards signed and put in for your handicap and take the opportunity to meet other members and hopefully make good golfing pals.
I dont agree with the staunch stance some adopt of "Ive paid my money so I will do as I please"
At the end of the day a club should be run for the benefit of the members and allowing singles out at prime-times doesnt benefit the majority. If they are the rules then Im afraid you will get told who to play with and if not agreeable to that, you wont play. There is always a bigger picture.
TWM
Challenge Tour Pro
Westy,
I too like to have a practice round on my own but I would never choose a time when I have to book. That would be the red light for me. I choose late afternoon or early evening.
I too like to have a practice round on my own but I would never choose a time when I have to book. That would be the red light for me. I choose late afternoon or early evening.
mono217
Journeyman Pro
I do think you should complain about this if that is what you were promised.
TonyN
Money List Winner
John the I will do as I please comment I feel may be taken from my post. I didn't mean I would be a spoilt brat and do anything I want. Just use the club as the I like providing I don't break any rules or guidelines. And in this instance the op was told he could do this.
medwayjon
Tour Winner
Wasnt referring to you mate or anyone on the thread, was getting at people I have met at Gillingham who are of the attitude that they have paid up so can do what the hell they like, e.g go out whenever they like regardless of the rules, play 2 balls at once, re-hit shots even though they have people behind, bring guests during protected times, et, etc.
RGDave
Money List Winner
Westy, this doesn't seem to reflect badly on you.....you have the right to do what you want.
Only thing is...it was a Saturday morning....
I'm surprised any club would "use up" a tee time on a single player and (although I'm not having a dig at you) I'd expect any club to pair members up between 8 and midday on weekends.
If you were really keen to go out on your own, you should have declined the offer and asked if there was any chance of an unused time. If this means waiting an hour or not getting a slot, then that's that.
Only thing is...it was a Saturday morning....
I'm surprised any club would "use up" a tee time on a single player and (although I'm not having a dig at you) I'd expect any club to pair members up between 8 and midday on weekends.
If you were really keen to go out on your own, you should have declined the offer and asked if there was any chance of an unused time. If this means waiting an hour or not getting a slot, then that's that.
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IME, clubs don't mind folks going out on their own providing it's not busy, in which case they're more likely to create three/four balls wherever possible. If you went out with others and it wasn't busy then that's just plain stupidity on their account and you're quite right to be a bit miffed. Early days.
Cernunnos
Journeyman Pro
Its interesting to note that on occasions I've been playing on my own & caught up with another single or 2 ball waiting for the inevitable slow 4ball game I've often joined up with the other singleball or dualball.
Or invited others to join with me as we wait for 4balls to get on with it.
I know some clubs have gone to a 3ball as a maximum to save on time for rounds. As all that ends up happening when clubs insist on every teetime being 4 ball groups only, means the inevitable 5 hour round, which I'm sure no-one want.
Or invited others to join with me as we wait for 4balls to get on with it.
I know some clubs have gone to a 3ball as a maximum to save on time for rounds. As all that ends up happening when clubs insist on every teetime being 4 ball groups only, means the inevitable 5 hour round, which I'm sure no-one want.
mono217
Journeyman Pro
I play in a fourball almost every time I play and are rounds take an average of 210 mins
Cernunnos
Journeyman Pro
mono, this is perfectly possible when not every group is a 4ball & the 4ball groups are well versed in saving time, but when every group is forced to be a 4ball then the 5hr round does indeed happen.
The only time I've played Lichfield & had it take less than 5 hours (& was 3h20m) when it was quiet & few groups were out on the course. Even then we were waiting on tees. Which for me is proof positive that insistion on 4ball only tee-times is a false econemy.
BTW, isn't it Princes that insists upon teetimes as 2balls maximum to speed up play & make golf a more ejoyable prospect.
The only time I've played Lichfield & had it take less than 5 hours (& was 3h20m) when it was quiet & few groups were out on the course. Even then we were waiting on tees. Which for me is proof positive that insistion on 4ball only tee-times is a false econemy.
BTW, isn't it Princes that insists upon teetimes as 2balls maximum to speed up play & make golf a more ejoyable prospect.
