Warren
Club Champion
If the course is in as worse a condition as described then clearly the responsible thing to do is close the course, a lot of balls hit in these conditions will plug so if your lucky enough to find it you will need to take relief from these but the fairway is still damaged by the plug mark, the greens are usually very soft so pitch marks are deeper & whether you wear spikes or soft cleats they do still damage the surface & even just walking the fairways in such conditions creates damage so don't just blame the electric trolleys as everybody on the course contributes a little to the damage, it's up to the greenkeepers to keep on top of this & if they can't they make the call & close the course. OK i'm not saying close it all winter but just in the extreme conditions madandra describes. I played at a club last year where they did have a total trolley ban electric & pull & these muddy corridors that are described in the original thread still existed, so what do we ban next? 