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All becoming a bit of a nonsense, caffeine reduces the time to muscle failure by up to 10%, they tried banning that but couldn't work it so caffeine is ok again, I doubt this stuff Sharapova was on would offer gains like that but it does seem like damage limitation time from her and her team, agree its odd Nike have dropped her quick when she's such a sellable asset yet they back Gatlin the drug cheat sprinter. The diabetes/heart condition thing sounds far fetched, she was looking for any legal edge she could get on the competition. Alain Baxter lost an olympic bronze skiing medal for UK for having taken a sniff on a Vicks inhaler which had some ephidrene in it in US version unbeknownst to him which we all sympathised with BUT ultimately its part of your job as a professional sportsperson to analyse carefully everything that you put into your body and keep up to speed with all updates on what you can and cant take and if ok in what measures. If you make an exception for one case it's a precedent for others, zero tolerance is the only way.
hovis
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It will all come out in the wash. I happen to know that they have to disclose all medication and supplements that they use before any samples arw given. So if she's been using this substance for 10 years then they'll be 10 years of records of her disclosing this medication.
I personally dont buy it. She has a team of personal trainers and nutritionist around her and no doubt people that are in the know enough to tell her on the new banned list
I personally dont buy it. She has a team of personal trainers and nutritionist around her and no doubt people that are in the know enough to tell her on the new banned list
Rooter
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I heard she has acute angina
I think its all just a cunning stunt by her PR people.
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Hacker Khan
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Careful mate, seems there are easily offended people online right now
I'm offended by the offense I have not yet taken offense to. And I saw the acute angina joke on a card in Sainsburys today. A card which could be seen by children!!!! Oh the horror.
Blue in Munich
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I'd like to believe that it was a genuine mistake. I also believed Lance Armstrong. And from what I'm seeing from some posts on here from people whose medical knowledge far exceeds mine, it looks like I might be disappointed again.
I don't think Nike have a hard and fast line on this; did they not also stand by Tiger Woods? I know it's not exactly the same circumstances, but it was cheating of a sort but they didn't have a problem then. Be interesting to see the figures in this case and the others to see if that reveals a reason for the quick drop?
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Mine is based purely on her looks.
Bunkermagnet
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So she's been caught using a product (for the last 10 yrs) that's now on the banned list..and didn't realise it's now on the list? She's just a cheat and has been abusing the system to get away with it.
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I think the worst you can say about her is she is a cheat since Jan 2016 and she has come clean and admitted her mistake. If she was taking a PE drug then the authorities are at fault for not banning it sooner.
Rooter
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you would surely then have to question her ethics. using a performance enhancing drug (while it was legal) is that fairplay?
To look at it from a completely different angle, would you let your kids take legal highs? they are legal, not banned or illegal, so whats the issue? (not aimed at you D4S! Rhetorical Q for all)
bluewolf
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Ok, so I take it that the drug in question is available over the counter? If not, then she's taking a prescription only drug. If it is available over the counter, then why isn't it available elsewhere in the world?
Genuine questions.
Genuine questions.
Bunkermagnet
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Good question but I would have to say yes. Surely everyone else would be doing it? I guess it's the golfing equivalent of using a long putter.....not illegal (obviously now is) but some say it created an advantage.
Prior to this year, which rule did she break?
bluewolf
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if she was prescribed it without a genuine reason then she's a cheat. If she has a genuine reason for the prescription then she's had plenty of opportunity to find a better medication.
Robobum
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You can ban whatever you like, but unless you have an approved method to test for it, what's the point?
Robobum
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We are inundated with requests to test for legal highs (in hair). However, there are (or can be) an almost infinitesimal number of compounds which will need to be tested for. Once each one has a method for analysis, it is made illegal. That's the cue for a slight change in compound when it will become legal again.
Phishing in the wind
Bunkermagnet
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http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/mar/08/meldonium-maria-sharapova-failed-drugs-test
There can be no defence, it's still cheating.
There can be no defence, it's still cheating.
hovis
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We are inundated with requests to test for legal highs (in hair). However, there are (or can be) an almost infinitesimal number of compounds which will need to be tested for. Once each one has a method for analysis, it is made illegal. That's the cue for a slight change in compound when it will become legal again.
Phishing in the wind
There is a supplement that natural bodybuilders take that is just as good, if not better than banned steroids. It was first called trembombs until that got banned. They changed one compound and relabeled it testo power. That also got banned. Today its called sd matrix and available on ebay.
My point is that the drug companies are always one step ahead. It must be an uphill battle for official governing bodies
Bunkermagnet
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Yes it is an uphill battle, but those taking the "supplement" know what they are doing and will carry on until they get caught or something else comes along.
