shaft Question

[CMAC]

anyone know the difference a cat 1 player could see between the following shafts

Stiff Diamana Kai'li 64g in a 9.5*

Stiff Diamana Ilima 58g in a 10.5*

same head.

 

[Ethan]

anyone know the difference a cat 1 player could see between the following shafts

Stiff Diamana Kai'li 64g in a 9.5*

Stiff Diamana Ilima 58g in a 10.5*

same head.

Same head? - one says 9.5, the other 10.5.

The Ilima will go higher, and I expect a Cat 1 player would see that. It may also feel a bit softer, so if the player has hookish tendencies, they may surface with it.

 

[MadAdey]

One hell of a lot of difference I would say. X-stiff in a 9.5 compared to a Regular in a 10.5. They would go like totally different clubs.

 

[CMAC]

Same head? - one says 9.5, the other 10.5.

The Ilima will go higher, and I expect a Cat 1 player would see that. It may also feel a bit softer, so if the player has hookish tendencies, they may surface with it.

Thanks, I meant same head make but as loft is the biggest factor affecting launch I expected a higher launch. I do have hookish tendencies so thats that one out, I just like the weight, but I might try and get the new Kai'li which is lighter than the lighter blue old one.

One hell of a lot of difference I would say. X-stiff in a 9.5 compared to a Regular in a 10.5. They would go like totally different clubs.

they are both stiff

 

[MadAdey]

Thanks, I meant same head make but as loft is the biggest factor affecting launch I expected a higher launch. I do have hookish tendencies so thats that one out, I just like the weight, but I might try and get the new Kai'li which is lighter than the lighter blue old one.


they are both stiff

http://www.mitsubishirayongolf.com/product.php?cmd=ndia_kaili&lang=en

http://www.mitsubishirayongolf.com/product.php?cmd=ndia_ilima&lang=en

Check out the website Darth. A 64g Kai'li is an X-stiff. A 58g ilima is a regular.

 

[CMAC]

http://www.mitsubishirayongolf.com/product.php?cmd=ndia_kaili&lang=en

http://www.mitsubishirayongolf.com/product.php?cmd=ndia_ilima&lang=en

Check out the website Darth. A 64g Kai'li is an X-stiff. A 58g ilima is a regular.

Thanks Madadey, didnt know that, I wonder if thats the newer Diamana shafts they are referring to over the older 910? if this is the case then X stiff is too stiff, I wonder why the shaft says S and not XS

 

[MadAdey]

Thanks Madadey, didnt know that, I wonder if thats the newer Diamana shafts they are referring to over the older 910? if this is the case then X stiff is too stiff, I wonder why the shaft says S and not XS

Was not trying to high jack your thread, just wanted to point it out to you mate............:thup:

 

[Ethan]

I didn't look at the flex by weight, assuming these were the same notional flex. An Ilima will play softer than a Kaili of the same apparent flex. It will also launch higher and spin more.

 

[CMAC]

Was not trying to high jack your thread, just wanted to point it out to you mate............:thup:

I didnt think you were, I'm grateful of the input plus you've noticed something I missed, X stiff doesnt suit me for a driver so I wont be buying that one and will find a 61g Kai'Li which is Stiff. You've just saved me buying a new mistake, even the pro didnt mention it. Thanks :cheers:

 

[CMAC]

now I'm more confused, looking at the Titleist website here http://www.titleist.com/golf-clubs/drivers/910D2.aspx click shafts and it has the 64 gram at stiff.........
I think I now need to go somewhere that has these shafts and just try them, the stats on the websites are very confusing

 

[Val]

I have the ilima shaft in my 910 and its definately noticeable that it launches higher than the kai'li, I can't say I've noticed excess spin though.

 

[MGL]

now I'm more confused, looking at the Titleist website here http://www.titleist.com/golf-clubs/drivers/910D2.aspx click shafts and it has the 64 gram at stiff.........
I think I now need to go somewhere that has these shafts and just try them, the stats on the websites are very confusing

+1 on that! Go somewhere where you can try the two shafts in the same head for a proper comparison - anything else is just guess work and could lead to a dent in the wallet that doesn't improve your game!

 

[kev_off_the_tee]

I went up to Philips golf in newcastle and tried a few "made for" shafts they had in their spares fitting bag and found that every shaft launched the ball very differently in my machspeed. I was consistent with each shaft in that some always sliced, some launched very high and others very low, but always the same result with each shaft

I've brought away a shaft I NEVER EVER thought I'd get on with, an aldila voodoo stiff which I was getting good dispersion and distance compared to the axivcore that was in my machspeed. Hopefully the best £20 I'll spend on a driver

Best advice from me is go somewhere and hit some balls with some demo models and failing that go forms fitting

 

[MGL]

I went up to Philips golf in newcastle and tried a few "made for" shafts they had in their spares fitting bag and found that every shaft launched the ball very differently in my machspeed. I was consistent with each shaft in that some always sliced, some launched very high and others very low, but always the same result with each shaft

I've brought away a shaft I NEVER EVER thought I'd get on with, an aldila voodoo stiff which I was getting good dispersion and distance compared to the axivcore that was in my machspeed. Hopefully the best £20 I'll spend on a driver

Best advice from me is go somewhere and hit some balls with some demo models and failing that go forms fitting

Do you want it building properly!

 

[kev_off_the_tee]

Thanks for the offer Nicky but its a Str8 fit, unscrew one and screw in the new one. It had never been out of the bag and still had its shrink wrapping on it. Not the reason I bought it but that was an added bonus. I'm not expecting miracles as ideally I would like a higher lofted driver and custom shaft but only when funds permit.

When fund do allow, I can sell my driver for what I paid and take the plunge

 

[Andy]

I've got a Kai'li 65G Stiff pulled from my 910 if you want to try it DV?

 

[thecraw]

If its for your Rapture you'll need a 0.350 tip or a shim.

If your looking at the Kai'li have a look into the UST Mamiya shaft I'm punting. Good strong mid/low launch shaft.

 

[munro007]

Darth Scott Gourlay has all these shafts and the new Titleist heads in stock. :thup:

 

[moogie]

Darth Scott Gourlay has all these shafts and the new Titleist heads in stock. :thup:

Who..............??.............






Just thought if I get u to mention name twice in 1 thread, u may get ya hand smacked again:rofl:

But as Craw says, think DV been messing with Rapture V2 heads

 

[CMAC]

cheers fellas, it would be for a Titleist head, either 910 or maybe 913 if they can come down in price.

Yes I've been messing with Raptures and its an excellent driver but as its all in the engine I need to find the shaft that suits me, alwyas been a Titleist fan since a boy so thats where I'm looking now.

Best time over winter to tweak and fiddle and hopefully be ready for the new season, only 3.5mths away :whoo: