Second Chances

[Beezerk]

What a load of rubbish this whole circus is..

I heard Graham Taylor on the radio earlier, this latest episode sounds more like a P.F.A. publicity stunt the more I learn.

 

[SocketRocket]

Hang on a minute! This is not a re-trial. We are not determining his Guilt or Innocence. That has already been done. He's disputing it and taking steps to change it, but that's beside the point at this stage!

Evans was found guilty on the basis of that, and other, evidence - end of story for me unless the submission to the CCRC involves that evidence! And that can only be properly decided by the CCRC imo!

A good reply, I agree fully.

Also; is there a shortage of people who can play football? Are there not talented kids in abundance who would relish the opportunity of playing for a club? I am sure football can survive without him.

The guy hasn't served his sentence yet, he is just out on licence and still serving it while out of prison. What kind of role model is he anyway, do we want convicted rapists entertaining us; I don't think so!

 

[Pin-seeker]

The first step to rehabilitation and earning the right to take your place back in society is acceptance and apology for the crimes committed. Until then he's toxic and no one will touch him.

If you were accused & even found guilty of something that you knew deep down you didn't do would you apologise??
I know I wouldn't,especially if it was something like rape which would stick with you for the rest of your life.

 

[User20205]

If you had been on the Bramall Lane Kop, when he was scoring for fun, yes..It is meant in footballing terms..Have you ever been to a match?

I've been there and to the other lot a few times. Going to a match or otherwise doesn't insulate you from being able to see the bigger picture.

It bothers me that being a football supporter, sometimes somehow, is used an excuse for leaving common sense at the door. It's like the myopic tribalism is blinding

 

[Deleted member 16999]

If you were accused & even found guilty of something that you knew deep down you didn't do would you apologise??
I know I wouldn't,especially if it was something like rape which would stick with you for the rest of your life.

Absolutely agree, however, surely you wouldn't expect your life to return to normal while you did fight

 

[User20205]

If you were accused & even found guilty of something that you knew deep down you didn't do would you apologise??
I know I wouldn't,especially if it was something like rape which would stick with you for the rest of your life.

I wouldn't be found guilty because I wouldn't have done it. He did and should as a minimum.

 

[Pin-seeker]

Absolutely agree, however, surely you wouldn't expect your life to return to normal while you did fight

Yes fair point :thup:

 

[Pin-seeker]

I wouldn't be found guilty because I wouldn't have done it. He did and should as a minimum.

So you wouldn't sleep with a women or man that had been drinking?

 

[Pin-seeker]

He was never going to get a fair trial.
Footballer accused of rape. Open & shut case IMO.

 

[Hacker Khan]

I give it till 8.15 tops and this thread will go the way of the other one.

 

[Hacker Khan]

He was never going to get a fair trial.
Footballer accused of rape. Open & shut case IMO.

Really?? Come on, you are better than that comment.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

He was never going to get a fair trial.
Footballer accused of rape. Open & shut case IMO.

His co-accused was Clayton MacDonald also a professional footballer was found not guilty

 

[Pin-seeker]

I give it till 8.15 tops and this thread will go the way of the other one.

Probably right,or on this occasion people might respect others opinion & discuss it without it getting silly.

 

[Rumpokid]

I've been there and to the other lot a few times. Going to a match or otherwise doesn't insulate you from being able to see the bigger picture.

It bothers me that being a football supporter, sometimes somehow, is used an excuse for leaving common sense at the door. It's like the myopic tribalism is blinding

If you read my posts correctly, they are in the past tense, however, lets see how the appeal goes eh??

 

[User20205]

So you wouldn't sleep with a women or man that had been drinking?

Not that was so drunk they were incapable of consenting. That's not the argument though is it.

He's been convicted, he's a sex offender and he's shown no contrition.

If it comes to pass that a miscarriage of justice has occurred then he would be free to carry on his career and have my every sympathy, but as it currently stands that's not the case.

He either clears his name, or accepts his wrong doing, he's got no future otherwise.

 

[Pin-seeker]

His co-accused was Clayton MacDonald also a professional footballer was found not guilty

Come on tho no way could they find him guilty,what did she think was going to happen when going back to his room??

 

[Rumpokid]

I give it till 8.15 tops and this thread will go the way of the other one.

Shouldn't do, free speech, reasonable debate and opinion..Maybe it is wishful thinking on your part?

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Come on tho no way could they find him guilty,what did she think was going to happen when going back to his room??

So as Evans didn't go back to the room with her, what did he think might happen?

 

[Hobbit]

He was never going to get a fair trial.
Footballer accused of rape. Open & shut case IMO.

A simple search will show quite a number of footballers who've been accused of rape, and subsequently found not guilty....

 

[Hacker Khan]

If you read my posts correctly, they are in the past tense, however, lets see how the appeal goes eh??

'Give SuperChed a chance let him play'

Enlighten me how this is in the past tense?