Scotland V Germany

[Doon frae Troon]

One of the good things about the demise of The Rangers and to a lesser extent Hearts is that the well used 'Diddy Teams' expression took a back seat for a while. Sad, but no surprise, to hear this arrogant term making a comeback.

 

[FairwayDodger]

I'll try to explain, and I'll use the GMS/Armstrong players as an example.

Going back a few years, they weren't yet good enough to play for Scotland and neither were they good enough to sign for a big club. But as they gained experience and improved they were both called up for Scotland (while they were at Dundee Utd, incidentally). That improvement also attracted the interest of a bigger club who signed them.

The international call up and joining a bigger club are not directly related. They coincidentally happened within a couple of years. In this case they got the call up before joining Celtic, other players might move club before the international call up happens.

 

[c1973]

One of the good things about the demise of The Rangers and to a lesser extent Hearts is that the well used 'Diddy Teams' expression took a back seat for a while. Sad, but no surprise, to hear this arrogant term making a comeback.

Not sure how gdunc feels about that.

I personally couldn't give a monkeys.......if the cap fits.
Pretty sure the phrase never took a back seat either, it certainly didn't with me. Hearts (for example), having won nothing of much consequence are, were and most likely always will be a diddy team in my book.

And it's certainly not arrogant.......more a matter of fact if you ask me.

 

[c1973]

I'll try to explain, and I'll use the GMS/Armstrong players as an example.

Going back a few years, they weren't yet good enough to play for Scotland and neither were they good enough to sign for a big club. But as they gained experience and improved they were both called up for Scotland (while they were at Dundee Utd, incidentally). That improvement also attracted the interest of a bigger club who signed them.

The international call up and joining a bigger club are not directly related. They coincidentally happened within a couple of years. In this case they got the call up before joining Celtic, other players might move club before the international call up happens.

Never let the facts get in the way of 'diddy teams' supporters spleen when it is being vented though. :thup:

 

[FairwayDodger]

One of the good things about the demise of The Rangers and to a lesser extent Hearts is that the well used 'Diddy Teams' expression took a back seat for a while. Sad, but no surprise, to hear this arrogant term making a comeback.

I know it's a real affront using a term like that when fans of other clubs always talk so respectfully about the OF.

 

[Farneyman]

Well, I do agree about the grandparents rule being wrong tbf, parents and no further back for me.

May I enquire as to which team you support, or are a fan of?

Surely you should have asked what school he went to first before going for the jugular

 

[Val]

He didn't.

He's out injured. Maybe check your facts.

I had no facts to check, I asked a question.

It's not hard really when you read things properly.

 

[gdunc79]

Not sure how gdunc feels about that.

I personally couldn't give a monkeys.......if the cap fits.
Pretty sure the phrase never took a back seat either, it certainly didn't with me. Hearts (for example), having won nothing of much consequence are, were and most likely always will be a diddy team in my book.

And it's certainly not arrogant.......more a matter of fact if you ask me.

I agree with Doon. Things will soon be back to the way they once were in Scottish football but it has been great being able to turn the diddy team tag on its head towards 50% of west coasters for the last few years.

To answer a previous post, I am a St Johnstone fan, born in Perth now living in Hamilton.

I still disagree that the moment somebody signs for Celtic or a lower league English team means that they have automatically reached a required standard for international football.

 

[Val]

I still disagree that the moment somebody signs for Celtic or a lower league English team means that they have automatically reached a required standard for international football.

You are the only one that suggested that

 

[c1973]

I agree with Doon. Things will soon be back to the way they once were in Scottish football but it has been great being able to turn the diddy team tag on its head towards 50% of west coasters for the last few years.

To answer a previous post, I am a St Johnstone fan, born in Perth now living in Hamilton.

I still disagree that the moment somebody signs for Celtic or a lower league English team means that they have automatically reached a required standard for international football.

Would that be the same diddy team that put the Premier League (yer having a laugh) team St Johnstone out the cup last season?




So, would I be correct to assume that it was ok to call the successful, mighty, world famous Glasgow Rangers a wee diddy team for a few years, but it's now arrogant and sad when the fans of the aforementioned highly decorated (more trophies than any other) club use the term to refer to less successful clubs of a lower standing (in terms of trophies won and international players produced)?

 

[Jacko_G]

Would that be the same diddy team that put the Premier League (yer having a laugh) team St Johnstone out the cup last season?




So, would I be correct to assume that it was ok to call the successful, mighty, world famous Glasgow Rangers a wee diddy team for a few years, but it's now arrogant and sad when the fans of the aforementioned highly decorated (more trophies than any other) club use the term to refer to less successful clubs of a lower standing (in terms of trophies won and international players produced)?

Mmmmmmm.

If we really want to go down the history route I fear it'll get very messy.

 

[c1973]

Mmmmmmm.

If we really want to go down the history route I fear it'll get very messy.

Not at all,not at all.

We're proud of our (FIFA and UEFA and legally acknowledged) intact, long standing club history. :thup:

An illustrious history of winning trophies............and producing international class players for the national team (well, somebody has to, don't they).

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Not at all,not at all.

We're proud of our (FIFA and UEFA and legally acknowledged) intact, long standing club history. :thup:

An illustrious history of winning trophies............and producing international class players for the national team (well, somebody has to, don't they).

Glad you put a smiley at the end of that as some on here don't get irony. [Inc me occasionally]

A proper Thud and Blunder game at ICT last night, apart from the effort and passion it was not a great advert for our game.

 

[Farneyman]

To answer a previous post, I am a St Johnstone fan, born in Perth now living in Hamilton.

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Aye but who do you really support between Celtic and Rangers? :whoo:

The amount of times I was asked that in the WoS when I first arrived was unbelievable after I told folk I was a Man U fan. Most couldn't understand how I didn't support either of them, OF teams.

Main reason was it was a Diddy league.

 

[Jacko_G]

Glad you put a smiley at the end of that as some on here don't get irony. [Inc me occasionally]

A proper Thud and Blunder game at ICT last night, apart from the effort and passion it was not a great advert for our game.

When is there ever a game that is a great advert for Scottish football? Plenty of carthorses at every club in Scotland. Referees are just more lenient towards certain teams.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Of course as time goes on the New OF will simply state that their own inadequacies in Europe are down to the inadequacies of Scottish football - as exemplified by the performance of the Scotland team and the relatively poor standard of Scottish football. And so these two clubs and many of their supporters will (in the normal and historic superior way) dismiss the Scottish international football team and the rest of Scottish football as a waste of space - and seek pastures new - pastures that they and the clubs deserve. More's the pity that the New OF are both relatively pretty dross as well, and no one else will have them.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I agree with Doon. Things will soon be back to the way they once were in Scottish football but it has been great being able to turn the diddy team tag on its head towards 50% of west coasters for the last few years.

To answer a previous post, I am a St Johnstone fan, born in Perth now living in Hamilton.

I still disagree that the moment somebody signs for Celtic or a lower league English team means that they have automatically reached a required standard for international football.

Hi @gdun79 - good to come across another currently suffering Saintee on the boards. But we had a great day at the Cup Final year past May :whoo: :whoo: :whoo: as we did

 

[NWJocko]

Nowt!!

Beat a couple of pub teams then horsed out in about the 15th preliminary round of the Europa league by some giants of Kazakhstan...

Kept our 100% record in the league today though eh Val

:whoo: :whoo: :whoo: :whoo: :whoo:

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Good result for the Dons, keeps us Jambos looking like ':lol:contenders'

 

[c1973]

Of course as time goes on the New OF will simply state that their own inadequacies in Europe are down to the inadequacies of Scottish football - as exemplified by the performance of the Scotland team and the relatively poor standard of Scottish football. And so these two clubs and many of their supporters will (in the normal and historic superior way) dismiss the Scottish international football team and the rest of Scottish football as a waste of space - and seek pastures new - pastures that they and the clubs deserve. More's the pity that the New OF are both relatively pretty dross as well, and no one else will have them.

New OF?

What are you wittering on about now?

Inadequacies in Europe? How many European finals have St Johnstone contested? I'll give you a clue, an acronym as we all know you like to use/make them up; the clue is SFA......and it's got nowt to do with football associations.

Edit: And I'd say historically we've been quite entitled to berate the national team............it's usually our own players after all.