Scotland Debate

[Foxholer]

...As with the sterling zone, UK has said no!! Of course, whether they actually mean no is a different question
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That's the issue that Salmond has to work around, or at least obfuscate!

Whether he can, and how he tries/does will be 'interesting'.

One thing he possibly has going for him is that the Joint Statements were actually organised by Alistair Darling, leader of the Better Together campaign. So a few fairly obvious 'favours' being called, as there was an intention, if not an agreement, to not pre-negotiate.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Actually, no.

Salmond is the only person (or one of a few in reality) that is actually in a position to negoitiate with Westminster so that he isn't left with trying to "predict" what is going to happen.

For the life of me I don't know why you think he should sit back without providing any information or negotiating a more concrete position (on all aspects) where possible whilst Cameron and Osborne are left to shape an Independent Scotland!!?

But according to C&O there is no negotiation to be done - it's a no. Indeed what C&O have done is kill the possibility of any pre-referendum negotiation that Salmond might have wanted to have with them, and that you are calling for him to have. But then why would SL say that one of the risks is that Scotland won't be in a 'Sterling Zone' if they did not think it was still a possibility.

 

[NWJocko]

But according to C&O there is no negotiation to be done - it's a no. Indeed what C&O have done is kill the possibility of any pre-referendum negotiation that Salmond might have wanted to have with them, and that you are calling for him to have. But then why would SL say that one of the risks is that Scotland won't be in a 'Sterling Zone' if they did not think it was still a possibility.

Jeez its hard work!

I said negotiate on all aspects.

SL say uncertainty around currency, nothing to do with sterling zone.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Looks like BA have come out in support of a YES vote as the will get a better deal in iScotland.
Maybees we could persuade them to move their head office to Glasgow.

 

[FairwayDodger]

Looks like BA have come out in support of a YES vote as the will get a better deal in iScotland.
Maybees we could persuade them to move their head office to Glasgow.

Better trying to get them to fly somewhere outside the uk from Scotland! Grrrr!

 

[Foxholer]

Looks like BA have come out in support of a YES vote as the will get a better deal in iScotland.
Maybees we could persuade them to move their head office to Glasgow.

Come on man! (How'd that South African expression sneak in?). They haven't said anything of the sort! You are dreaming!

Here's the Beeb's article. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-26383990

Walsh stated 'if anything it might be marginally positive'.

That's ain't coming out in support of a YES vote in the slightest!

And the only reason he was asked was because it was their owner's AGM (I think) time! Indicates the same question will be asked of every company from or dealing with Scotland until September! Oh joy!

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Willie's just thinking of all the money he could save if he moved his operation north of the border.
A bit like standard Life in reverse.

 

[Foxholer]

Willie's just thinking of all the money he could save if he moved his operation north of the border.
A bit like standard Life in reverse.

What are you on (about)?

 

[Val]

Better trying to get them to fly somewhere outside the uk from Scotland! Grrrr!

They do, they fly to Ibiza, granted it's around 1am but it's a start. Be nice if could get a few long haul to the US from Edinburgh.

 

[Andy808]

Haven't they gone yet?
Oops sorry. When's the vote?

 

[CMAC]

Looks like BA have come out in support of a YES vote as the will get a better deal in iScotland.
Maybees we could persuade them to move their head office to Glasgow.

Come on man! (How'd that South African expression sneak in?). They haven't said anything of the sort! You are dreaming!

Here's the Beeb's article. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-26383990

Walsh stated 'if anything it might be marginally positive'.

That's ain't coming out in support of a YES vote in the slightest!

And the only reason he was asked was because it was their owner's AGM (I think) time! Indicates the same question will be asked of every company from or dealing with Scotland until September! Oh joy!

Foxy is correct.

They are talking about the govt tax on flights, if that is scrapped for an iScotland it won't benefit Scotland, only BA

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Foxy is correct.

They are talking about the govt tax on flights, if that is scrapped for an iScotland it won't benefit Scotland, only BA

Aye that's right, we don't want too many big spending tourists.

 

[Adi2Dassler]

I was replying to Adi2's comment that it would be better if Standard Life left Scotland, not the Standard Life CEO's statement.

All I meant was S&P's reference to over reliance on the financial sector and the SL announcement made for a easy resolution...was mothing but a throw away remark

Foxy is correct.

They are talking about the govt tax on flights, if that is scrapped for an iScotland it won't benefit Scotland, only BA

Indeed.Who needs more intercontinental direct routes,opening new markets of trade,tourism and co-operation.I work in the industry and I guarantee more long haul routes (esp to BRIC please) would help the economy significantly, as witnessed by Emirates (now double daily) and Qatar from May

 

[Foxholer]

Indeed.Who needs more intercontinental direct routes,opening new markets of trade,tourism and co-operation.I work in the industry and I guarantee more long haul routes (esp to BRIC please) would help the economy significantly, as witnessed by Emirates (now double daily) and Qatar from May

It would seem from his 'marginally positive' statement Willy either doesn't believe it will dramatically change things - for BA - or is adopting a 'wait and see' approach.

By no means the 'coming out in support' that Doon sugested!

 

[Adi2Dassler]

It would seem from his 'marginally positive' statement Willy either doesn't believe it will dramatically change things - for BA - or is adopting a 'wait and see' approach.

By no means the 'coming out in support' that Doon sugested!

I agree.Both the BA statement and the SL statement are adopting a wait and see approach with both companies engaging in scenarios depending on which way Scotland votes, so lets use common sense and say so and not totally over blow what either company says,eh?

 

[Doon frae Troon]

What are you on (about)?

Slightly tongue in cheek comment to balance thoughts.

 

[Foxholer]

I agree.Both the BA statement and the SL statement are adopting a wait and see approach with both companies engaging in scenarios depending on which way Scotland votes, so lets use common sense and say so and not totally over blow what either company says,eh?

Well, asked if they were making contingency plans for (possible) independence, Walsh stated "No, because we'll continue to fly to Scotland."

As for common sense, I believe that should be directed at Doon - which was what me 'Come on man..' was about!

Does look likely that at every interview/press conference with CEO the 'are you making contingency plans?' question will be asked with a view to manufacturing a headline out of the response! But that's what the Media does and CEOs have to 'counter' - or at least bear in mind before they reply.

Slightly tongue in cheek comment to balance thoughts.

You should consider the use of Smilies then!

 

[CMAC]

Aye that's right, we don't want too many big spending tourists.

totally baffled with the logic or direction of this point

 

[Foxholer]

totally baffled with the logic or direction of this point

Needed one of these....

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Reduced airport taxes in iScotland = better trading opportunities for airlines = additional tourists for Scotland