Scotland Debate

[Old Skier]

Absolutely -we in Scotland are used to the antics of idiots on either side of a 'divide' - usually much more noise than effect.

You've moved then.

 

[Adi2Dassler]

New Blow for iScotland as yet more oil is found to be accessable

http://www.oilandgaspeople.com/news...ntapped-oil-and-gas-reserves-worth-trillions/

 

[Old Skier]

New Blow for iScotland as yet more oil is found to be accessable

http://www.oilandgaspeople.com/news...ntapped-oil-and-gas-reserves-worth-trillions/

Truly hope their right however it is in their business to talk up gas and oil. Any actual published findings though?

 

[FairwayDodger]

Maybe is patronising, and not my intention.She was very popular with woman voters, hence my gut feeling she'd be more capable than, say, Sturgeon who's less popular, in bringing no/undecideds to yes.

Understand what you're trying to say..... just hate sweeping generalisations like this.

I'd say Margo was more popular with both genders than Sturgeon? So yes maybe she would have brought more women to your side but more men too....

Anyway.... we've got much bigger matters to argue about than this!

 

[Doon frae Troon]

..and I am so missing Margo from this debate

She was with Jim Sillars last night in the form of a picture on his lapel....nice thought.

He quoted her a few times
She is supposted to have called Darling The Abominable Noman.

 

[Adi2Dassler]

An interesting comparison with NI

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2014/08/would-anyone-care-if-northern-ireland-left-union

 

[CMAC]

An interesting comparison with NI

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2014/08/would-anyone-care-if-northern-ireland-left-union

Yes I had tried to put myself in the same shoes if it was Wales or NI. I hope NI goes for it and I think we would all support it.

 

[Adi2Dassler]

Yes I had tried to put myself in the same shoes if it was Wales or NI. I hope NI goes for it and I think we would all support it.

But I thought you were against Scotland voting YES?

 

[CMAC]

But I thought you were against Scotland voting YES?

over 500 of my posts on this thread and you have to ask- Jees I must try harder:ears:

 

[Dodger]

It's all pathetic it really is - beyond pathetic

It appears this vote is ripping a country apart - for a vote that is supposed to all about the good of the country it appears to be the total opposite.

The negative feeling that has grown between both parties is going to ruin Scotland

Oh and the article didn't say that people were signing Rule Britannia then beating Yes campaigners

They said it followed several earlier incidents in which they had been verbally abused by a gang bearing the Union Flag and singing Rule, Britannia!

Any links for this ridiculous claim?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

My feelings for wanting Scotland to stay part of the UK aren't motivated by finance or political reasons so if Wales and N Ireland had a vote it would be the same as I feel now.

 

[Old Skier]

An interesting comparison with NI

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2014/08/would-anyone-care-if-northern-ireland-left-union

With their history and at this present moment in time IMHO it's not going to happen.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Any links for this ridiculous claim?

As I said "it appears from what I'm seeing on social media and other outlets" in regards the ill feeling between the two separate sides

But as the other poster after me has said this is more the minority.

 

[Adi2Dassler]

over 500 of my posts on this thread and you have to ask- Jees I must try harder:ears:

So,

support for NI leaving UK-yes
support for Scotland leaving UK- no

?

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Phill......you are frantically trying to find cases of 'breaking the country apart'.
I can tell you from living here that I see no signs of it.
As a nation we are having a great debate and as you can see from the expected polling it is involving nearly everyone.

There is the odd numpty on both sides but we just shake our heads at them and get on with it.

I was really surprised that there was not one negative comment aimed at Jim Sillars last night.
This from a hall of over 200 folk.
Europe and EFTA and old/new Labour were the only areas that sparked an audience debate.
It was good humoured enlightening debate.

I am hugely proud to live in a country that behaves in this way.
After 18th Sept, whatever happens I think we shall just get on with it.

With a no vote don't expect many Scottish MP's at Westminster from the Tories or Lib/Dems.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

So,

support for NI leaving UK-yes
support for Scotland leaving UK- no

?

Yes I found that a bit strange.
Why the double standard?

 

[Adi2Dassler]

Phill......you are frantically trying to find cases of 'breaking the country apart'.
I can tell you from living here that I see no signs of it.
As a nation we are having a great debate and as you can see from the expected polling it is involving nearly everyone.

There is the odd numpty on both sides but we just shake our heads at them and get on with it.

I was really surprised that there was not one negative comment aimed at Jim Sillars last night.
This from a hall of over 200 folk.
Europe and EFTA and old/new Labour were the only areas that sparked an audience debate.
It was good humoured enlightening debate.

I am hugely proud to live in a country that behaves in this way.
After 18th Sept, whatever happens I think we shall just get on with it.

With a no vote don't expect many Scottish MP's at Westminster from the Tories or Lib/Dems.

With a NO victory I expect Scotland to return many more SNP MPs than normal.Currently the Scottish voter is pretty smart, being able to separate Holyrood and Westminster elections.

With the massive new engagement of politics currently happening I can forsee a backlash from indy campaigners post NO and a drive to elect SNP.I genuinely think Labour, in its current form in Scotland are done.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Phill......you are frantically trying to find cases of 'breaking the country apart'.
I can tell you from living here that I see no signs of it.
As a nation we are having a great debate and as you can see from the expected polling it is involving nearly everyone.

There is the odd numpty on both sides but we just shake our heads at them and get on with it.

I was really surprised that there was not one negative comment aimed at Jim Sillars last night.
This from a hall of over 200 folk.
Europe and EFTA and old/new Labour were the only areas that sparked an audience debate.
It was good humoured enlightening debate.

I am hugely proud to live in a country that behaves in this way.
After 18th Sept, whatever happens I think we shall just get on with it.

With a no vote don't expect many Scottish MP's at Westminster from the Tories or Lib/Dems.

I'm not frantically trying to find anything

Seen a few people from the yes side trying to frantically find episodes of abuse from No supporters - but I guess if there is the odd numpty there is nothing to worry about

Oh there is a few posts directed at you other the last 24 hours looking for some facts from you to back up some of your claims - I'm guessing you are ready to provide it ?

 

[CMAC]

So,

support for NI leaving UK-yes
support for Scotland leaving UK- no

?

Yes I found that a bit strange.
Why the double standard?

what double standard? I don't live there and I'm not Northern Irish.

No wonder you YES campaigners get tied up in knots with these kind of ridiculous accusations.

 

[Old Skier]

According to PMQs the head of the EU has stated that if an iscot adopt the pound they will not be permitted into the EU. It looks like a Yes vote would manage something those anti EU Tory's failed to achieve.