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[Paul R]

Is there a time limit on when a card should be handed in after a competition? Our club is imposing a ten minute limit after the last group has finished. The R&A appears to be saying you have until midnight,

 

[rulie]

Is there a time limit on when a card should be handed in after a competition? Our club is imposing a ten minute limit after the last group has finished. The R&A appears to be saying you have until midnight,

Not sure where you are finding anything about midnight? That would be ridiculous.
There is not a time limit specified in the Rules of golf, but Rule 3.3b(2) does say the competitor must certify the hole scores on the scorecard and promptly return it to the Committee. These are "musts" and have a consequence of disqualification for any breaches.
Imo, the Committee in charge of the competition can specify a time limit in the terms of the competition.

 

[nickjdavis]

Is there a time limit on when a card should be handed in after a competition? Our club is imposing a ten minute limit after the last group has finished. The R&A appears to be saying you have until midnight,

I take it then, that in order to police this, a committee member is actually collecting the cards as players come in from their rounds? Otherwise how would they know if a card is handed in "late"?

Maybe the committee member in question wants to get the comp results processed and finalised and go home...hence doesnt want to be waiting whilst the final group check their scorecards whilst having a beer.

I agree that a committee is within its rights to specify time limits and other rules pertaining to the returning of a card.

 

[Paul R]

Thanks guys. It seems it is a deadline that nobody is aware of, I will make sure the club informs everyone.
As for the info from R&A , now I read it again, I think it is for general play rounds for hcap purposes.

 

[rulefan]

As for the info from R&A , now I read it again, I think it is for general play rounds for hcap purposes.

The R&A advice applies to both competitions and general play because of the two bullet points. It is not mandatory but simply advisable.

 

[Neilds]

Thanks guys. It seems it is a deadline that nobody is aware of, I will make sure the club informs everyone.
As for the info from R&A , now I read it again, I think it is for general play rounds for hcap purposes.

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That advice is not helped by the spelling mistake/wrong word in the first paragraph. Surely it must say "completion of the round" and not "competition of the round".

 

[DickInShorts]

I take it then, that in order to police this, a committee member is actually collecting the cards as players come in from their rounds? Otherwise how would they know if a card is handed in "late"?

Maybe the committee member in question wants to get the comp results processed and finalised and go home...hence doesnt want to be waiting whilst the final group check their scorecards whilst having a beer.

I agree that a committee is within its rights to specify time limits and other rules pertaining to the returning of a card.

Playing partner if mine lost out in that scenario
Last group out- came into clubhouse to enter score - several in the queue waiting to enter theirs - went for a beer - Secretary comes into bar and announces results - my mate complains as he’d come second - secretary refused to re-open comp!
Eventually he got offered a 4 ball - and promptly told the secretary where he could put it!!!

 

[Deleted member 36735]

They've probably brought in the rule to stop the muppets who do everything BUT put their card in after they have finished...Go and put clubs and gear away, get changed, go to the bathroom, go to the bar, sit there having a couple of drinks and a chat....Oh by the way let's start adding the scores up and think about putting the cards in an hour after we left the course....

NOOOOO....first thing you do off the course is sort the cards out, get them signed up, input them online, put them in the box/pro shop and then go and do the rest. Not only does this keep the online scoring up to date for everyone watching, but it also means the person sat there doing the cards gets a regular flow of 3 at a time and not a pile when people can be bothered later on.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

So is there a reason this has been brought up?
Looks like someone looking for rules people to agree his own arguement with his club.

 

[Paul R]

I’m clearly a muppet then. But thanks for your comment without knowing the full details as to what has occurred…..

Just trying to clarify a rule that seems a little vague….

 

[backwoodsman]

I’m clearly a muppet then. But thanks for your comment without knowing the full details as to what has occurred…..

Just trying to clarify a rule that seems a little vague….

So, just to clarify ...

There's no rule of golf that applies - but the R&A do offer sensible advice.
Your committee can set their own rules about this - effectively to make admin of the competition easier. But its up to them and they are the only ones who can give you the definitive answers as to what applies at your place.

 

[Colin L]

Is there a time limit on when a card should be handed in after a competition? Our club is imposing a ten minute limit after the last group has finished. The R&A appears to be saying you have until midnight,

I think you are being confused by the handicapping rules which have a deadline of midnight for the submission of a score if it is to be processed for the next day. The Rules of Golf do no not specify a time but do require players to return their score promptly (as already said) . I do wonder at the wisdom of allowing players up to 10 minutes after the last group has finished whiich is in any case an imprecise time.

 

[Neilds]

I think you are being confused by the handicapping rules which have a deadline of midnight for the submission of a score if it is to be processed for the next day. The Rules of Golf do no not specify a time but do require players to return their score promptly (as already said) . I do wonder at the wisdom of allowing players up to 10 minutes after the last group has finished whiich is in any case an imprecise time.

Exactly, does the time start when the last putt is holed, when the group get to the clubhouse, or any randomly defined time in between?

 

[WorldHandicapSystem]

I’m clearly a muppet then. But thanks for your comment without knowing the full details as to what has occurred…..

Just trying to clarify a rule that seems a little vague….

What has occurred then? My guess is you didn’t win something because you submitted a score past a deadline?

My club has a deadline of 9pm on the day of the comp for your score to be submitted. This is a comp rule and not to be confused with the WHS deadline.

 

[Backache]

I think you are being confused by the handicapping rules which have a deadline of midnight for the submission of a score if it is to be processed for the next day. The Rules of Golf do no not specify a time but do require players to return their score promptly (as already said) . I do wonder at the wisdom of allowing players up to 10 minutes after the last group has finished whiich is in any case an imprecise time.

I'd hate to be in the last group, sometimes with people needing comfort breaks , visits to the car to put clubs away etc. Its often over 10 minutes after the round has finished before a card is submitted. Sometimes it takes over 10 minutes to figure out how to work the computer if the apps are playing up.

 

[Orikoru]

Most of the time my scorecard goes in the bin after I've submitted my score in the app. I think my club only checks the card if you're in the prizes to be honest. Apart from the Club Champs where the General Manager enters all the scores himself for some reason.

 

[Backache]

Most of the time my scorecard goes in the bin after I've submitted my score in the app. I think my club only checks the card if you're in the prizes to be honest. Apart from the Club Champs where the General Manager enters all the scores himself for some reason.

I was kind of assuming it means score submitted whether electronically or by card. Ours are all submitted electronically however not all on the app as some don't know how to use them or the app fails and then they are done be computer. If the app is working well and you group are all familiar with it the task is easy and quick. If there are glitches and you have to go to the computer it can be laborious.