spongebob59
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Really enjoyed watching this, will have to watch more of Ionas content
Royal Liverpool 17th
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IanM
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Super golf hole that, right at the business end of the round!
What a smashing lass she is too. Proper golfer and charming with it
What a smashing lass she is too. Proper golfer and charming with it
Voyager EMH
Slipper Wearing Plucker of Pheasants
Dreadful. No collar on her shirt and it was not tucked into her trousers, if you can call them trousers.
I won't mention the socks. Were there any?
Such slovenliness on a golf course is not acceptable. Something needs to be done about this.
I won't mention the socks. Were there any?
Such slovenliness on a golf course is not acceptable. Something needs to be done about this.
Crow
Crow Person
I'll sound like my usual boring self, but I think it's the ultimate windmill hole.
That The Open could be decided by such a crazy hole is bonkers.
That The Open could be decided by such a crazy hole is bonkers.
Yorkshire Hacker
Newbie
I think that it is an exciting hole, and I would definitely want to watch there. I enjoyed watching the video.
D-S
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Nice video and I am sure it will be a great watch at the Open. However I am not a fan of a short hole where I cannot see if my ball is on the green or not.
sunshine
Well-known member
Not played the new hole, but it looks great, a lot better than the old hole which was bland and a missed opportunity.
Reminds me of the new short par 3s at Princes, I assume it's the same architect.
I agree with D-S: if they built up the tee so it was elevated by a couple of feet it would make a huge difference to see the putting surface.
Reminds me of the new short par 3s at Princes, I assume it's the same architect.
I agree with D-S: if they built up the tee so it was elevated by a couple of feet it would make a huge difference to see the putting surface.
garyinderry
Ryder Cup Winner
It's maybe done on purpose to try and put a bit of doubt in the mind of the very best golfers in the world.
Why do don't you like holes where you don't see the ball finish? If it makes you uncomfortable then that could be exactly what the designer wants.
I'm the same I don't particularly like too many holes where I can't see the ball finish but I do understand the thinking behind them.
Be interesting to see how the hole plays.
IanM
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I get the point about not seeing the green surface. But that would make it easier
sunshine
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I agree with the concept of putting some doubt in the mind of the player. The 16th at RSG is similar, in that the bunker mound short of the green obscures your view of the putting surface. There is also a run off on the right hand side down to a bunker.
The way I think about it, as someone who is only going to play the course once (or at best very rarely), is that it is a little unfair if you can't see the danger. Of course it is different for the pros in the Open because they have practise rounds, and for the members who make up the majority of rounds on the course.
D-S
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I understand the thinking behind the blind putting surface but for me it takes away some of the drama - e.g. Iona's shot, will it or won't it stop on the edge? will it roll into the bunker? For the lucky some with a ball on line, will it go in the hole? or perhaps lip out?The blind surface just reduces this drama to when you reach the green - 'oh, its in the bunker'.
The oohs and aahs from the crowd will tell the player all they need to know at the Open, normal players will not have this luxury.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Agree. I hate blind holes (to play). Our third is a blind par three. You hit your shot and you think it might be decent but you don't really know. Nothing to get excited about, as you say. Would be the worst hole to get a hole in one on. I'd probably spend 3 minutes looking for it in the rough through the back before I even checked the hole.
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
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Always check the hole on the way past...just in case
IanM
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Happened to the Senior Vice Capt last week.... our 8th is a 190 up hill par 3. Its a driver for him and he can't usually get there. Will the current amount of run, he'd given up searching for his ball in the rough at the back of the green while his playing partners were putting out, then the first bloke found his ball in the hole.
As with Hoylake, you can't see all the putting surface from the tee either!
KenL
Tour Rookie
Just watched the video. Hole looks fantastic to me.
sunshine
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Give it a hundred years and people will be raving about it. This is golf, where people don't like change.
IanM
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I think most people already are. If it was replacing an iconic hole, there would be uproar
Barking_Mad
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It's a shame some of the front 9 aren't as visually interesting!
inthehole
Hacker
Don't like the hole. It seems tricked up and maybe too much of a lottery in blustery conditions. Whilst I am sure it will cause drama I dont think that a Championship should be potentially decided upon something so random.
Wilson
Head Pro
Random? It'll force the best players in the world to hit a really good shot - as per the video, knock into the heart of the green and two-putt, if you need a birdie you'll have to take a risk, if you hit a bad shot you'll be punished.
Looks like a good hole to me.
