Roy for England.

Scottjd1 said:
And what has Harry won...

Just goes to show what a poor choice there is, hopefully Pardew continues to improve and he can take it in a couple of years.
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true but i think that harry just seems to have the better credentials. Ok maybe my views are slightly blinkered being a LFC fan but i didnt agree with his appointment when that happened.

I'd try tapping up a scotsman and i dont mean fergie. I think Moyes could have a good crack at it.
I think it could be time to accept that as a Nation we are crap as a team! Individual talent we have in abundance right through the spine of the team but for some reason we just dont seem to perform as a team!

Look over the last few years when it was gerrard and lamps they just couldnt play well together when on the pitch! Where as other International teams there big players can play together! eg xavi & iniesta

As a fan and i am massivly guilty of it we get to the big tournaments and we say its our year we expect to win or at least get to the semis at the very worse. But in reality we put in a lack luster performance through out the tournament and instantly we look at the manager and call for his head!
 
What we need is someone who knows the young players, is not affraid to have a clear out and is willing to start from scratch and build (pretty much like Lancaster has done with the rugby team) get some pride back in the shirt and pick on form nto reputation.

Whover gets the job should NOT take up the post before the Euros. If they do badly they will be tarnished before they get started and if they do well they will be crushed by the hype. Let Stuart Pearce do the Euros and see if he is a contender. If not, appoint straight after.
 
GB72 said:
What we need is someone who knows the young players, is not affraid to have a clear out and is willing to start from scratch and build (pretty much like Lancaster has done with the rugby team) get some pride back in the shirt and pick on form nto reputation.

Whover gets the job should NOT take up the post before the Euros. If they do badly they will be tarnished before they get started and if they do well they will be crushed by the hype. Let Stuart Pearce do the Euros and see if he is a contender. If not, appoint straight after.
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a great point here i think. Not thought of doing things that way but it does make sence peracey has been round the England setup for a while and he understands what the passion of playing for england is. Be interesting if the FA look into this
 
murphthemog said:
Any one but twitchy.
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Don't feel it will be too big a disaster if he is given the job for the Euro's....

Both HR and RH would want somthing more than that... Where as Pearce may well be happy to agree to an interim deal to cover the Euro's...

Whoever takes the England team to the Euro's is potentially in for a hiding... Too higher expectations for what is currently a mediocre squad...
 
I would rather have Woy than Arry personally. Woy was on a hiding to nothing at Anfield, yes he made mistakes but so has Kenny(lots of them) anyone else at LFC would have been sacked for their league form. Rafa has to shoulder some blame as well.
 
connor said:
a great point here i think. Not thought of doing things that way but it does make sence peracey has been round the England setup for a while and he understands what the passion of playing for england is. Be interesting if the FA look into this
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Pretty much what the rugby team did with Lancaster, put him in as a caretaker for one tournament and see what happens. In that instance it saved them millions on a big name. If it went wrong then there was no loss as there were no expectations.
 
In_The_Rough said:
I would rather have Woy than Arry personally. Woy was on a hiding to nothing at Anfield, yes he made mistakes but so has Kenny(lots of them) anyone else at LFC would have been sacked for their league form. Rafa has to shoulder some blame as well.
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What blame should rafa take for hodgson's mess?

The biggest problem at the time of the appointment of Hodgson was Liverpool FC were up for sale and there was a lot of problems off the pitch that were affecting the playing side.

The people who were in charge of selling the club had no background in football and were just money men with no feelings or care about the club Just getting the RBS's money back.

Martin Broughton and Christian Purslow sacked rafa because they wanted a yes man in charge to make it easier for them to sell t club.
 
I've been saying for months on here Hodgson will get it. Not only has he managed across the globe both at club and international level but he's on the top FIFA coaching panel and its a pretty elite group. He's also going to tick all the FA boxes. No skeletons (we know of - but pretty unlikely) no media gaffes (Hoddle, Capello), pretty media neutral (even at Liverpool he wasn't castigated in the same way others are). A good coach I actually think he will do well. He brough the best out of a mediocre side at Fulham and to be honest mediocre is what England are. I think he would give youngsters a chance and I'm sure he'd have a plan B (unlike Sven or Fabio)
 
No matter who get's the job as soon as they get a bad result the press will be straight on his back and be trying to force him out the door.
 
I am probably well and truly on my own here, but I'd have any nationality taking the job as long as he was the best man for it. I'd like to think we could go balls-out for Pep, Mourinho, Hiddink, etc. but these seem to be unrealistic targets due to unavailability and the current preference to go all-England on the next appointment.

Woy has a managerial CV as long as my driver shaft, but his record of landing trophies is about the same as me hitting fairways in reg. For me Psycho isn't the answer either; too much ingrained in the current setup to bring anything fresh. Arry is probably the best we've got to offer but leaves a trail of destruction wherever he goes and isn't very loyal.

Give it to someone who is going to change our style of football and not just someone who is a good "motivator".
 
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Stuart_C said:
What blame should rafa take for hodgson's mess?

The biggest problem at the time of the appointment of Hodgson was Liverpool FC were up for sale and there was a lot of problems off the pitch that were affecting the playing side.

The people who were in charge of selling the club had no background in football and were just money men with no feelings or care about the club Just getting the RBS's money back.

Martin Broughton and Christian Purslow sacked rafa because they wanted a yes man in charge to make it easier for them to sell t club.
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We will start with Aquilani shall we:whistle:
 
It doesnt matter who is in charge, the players are all so up themselves and they only want the 'england cap' so they demand more money when the next contract talks come up.

Another reason why I am not as in to football as I used to be...

:rant:
 
In_The_Rough said:
We will start with Aquilani shall we:whistle:
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That old chestnut eh.

Aquilani was the only replacement we could afford to buy at that time, as we only paid £5m upfront and the rest was in installments

Rafa was promised by the people in charge that when sold Arbeloa and Alonso whatever fee we got he had to spend, those players went and when we received the money off Real Madrid tha went straight to pay off the yanks debt. Rafa had already lined up Silva,jotevic and another player( can't remember) but they fell through and we ended up spending. £1m on kyriagos and and £4m on Johnson from Portsmouth as they still owed us from the crouch deal.

Every manager makes poor signings but rafa made more good than bad.

Don't believe everything thats in the papers ;)
 
Stuart_C said:
That old chestnut eh.

Aquilani was the only replacement we could afford to buy at that time, as we only paid £5m upfront and the rest was in installments

Rafa was promised by the people in charge that when sold Arbeloa and Alonso whatever fee we got he had to spend, those players went and when we received the money off Real Madrid tha went straight to pay off the yanks debt. Rafa had already lined up Silva,jotevic and another player( can't remember) but they fell through and we ended up spending. £1m on kyriagos and and £4m on Johnson from Portsmouth as they still owed us from the crouch deal.

Every manager makes poor signings but rafa made more good than bad.

Don't believe everything thats in the papers ;)
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Some of Rafa's signings were good yes nobody can dispute that, Alonso,Torres, Reina spring to mind however all I am saying is that he signed a lot and I mean a lot of average players. I am going to quote a paper here but it is fact. Benitez spent £229 Million between 2004 when he arrived and 2009 on 76 players!!! Even if he paid for Aquilani in installments after the £5 Mil initial fee take into account his wages and it was a shocking waste of money in anyones book. Have a read of the article here and see how many you think were good signings because I cant see that many to be honest:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...-players-signed-Liverpool-managers-reign.html
 
GB72 said:
I think the argument is that Rafa's signings were at least in part responsible for Hodgson's poor performance at Liverpool
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Correct Roy inherited some of Rafa's mess that he left. Hodgson made mistakes yes Poulsen, Cole and a few others but with Kenny lurking in the background he was on a hiding to nothing so felt a bit sorry for him really for all the flak he took when it wasn't all his doing.
 
In_The_Rough said:
Some of Rafa's signings were good yes nobody can dispute that, Alonso,Torres, Reina spring to mind however all I am saying is that he signed a lot and I mean a lot of average players. I am going to quote a paper here but it is fact. Benitez spent £229 Million between 2004 when he arrived and 2009 on 76 players!!! Even if he paid for Aquilani in installments after the £5 Mil initial fee take into account his wages and it was a shocking waste of money in anyones book. Have a read of the article here and see how many you think were good signings because I cant see that many to be honest:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...-players-signed-Liverpool-managers-reign.html
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Haha the Daily Mail writing facts :) :) out of those 76 players he signed how many we're ready made 1st team players??

There is a lot of young players in that list aswell as a few free transfers but don't let that stop the press driven agenda rubbish.

He brought in circa £150m so he only spent £80m in 6yrs.

Unlike hodgson's signings, we're still paying their wages even after they've left.

Like I say don't believe everything the xnephobic agenda driven press write.
 
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