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Maybe that's more an issue with your telly
But you still haven't come up with a valid reason to create a UK league beyond giving Scotland football a bit of the money pie that they haven't earned
Ronnie the failure
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Maybe that's more an issue with your telly
But you still haven't come up with a valid reason to create a UK league beyond giving Scotland football a bit of the money pie that they haven't earned
Doon frae Troon
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Well I did give you two or three but..... hey ho.
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No you didn't - you said increased telly money , yet there is no proof that would happen and average attendence !!?
They aren't reasons why there should be a UK league
So please provide valid reasons why a UK league is the logical choice
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
Oh dear, cross examined yet again.
Why do you not provide me with the examples of 'no proof it would happen'. 'struth
This may come as a surprise to you Phil but people are allowed to have different opinions from you.
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Just asked for a valid reason that the logical choice is a UK league ?
Right now the prem gets billions - the Scots Prem peanuts - so the combined want be increased by that much based on a couple of teams - IMO
But that's not a valid reason for English teams to join a UK league as they already get billions
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I agree with Doon re the empty seats, caught some of MOTD last night, think it was Sunderland Southampton game particularly, seemed half empty so maybe the produce is getting a little stale. Think grounds tend to count all season tickets seats as occupied even when they're not.
Re competition or lack of wrt Celtic mentioned, it is true, but looking at Arsenal away to Bayern the other night, seemed a similar scenario for them, embarrassingly bad in Europe but flying high in EPL.
In sports things always change, you have to modernise and adapt,
e.g. FA Cup is hugely weakened from where it once was due to priority for top 4 for ECL and also when ManU gave it a miss for world club thingy some years back. ECL has become massively more important to teams. Could anyone have predicted that 30 years ago?
Also NFL looking seriously at a UK franchise to expand their product to new markets, Olympics introducing new sports ie. snowboarding into winter Olympics which is very successful - boardercross arguably the best event at the winter games.
Cant stop change.
Re competition or lack of wrt Celtic mentioned, it is true, but looking at Arsenal away to Bayern the other night, seemed a similar scenario for them, embarrassingly bad in Europe but flying high in EPL.
In sports things always change, you have to modernise and adapt,
e.g. FA Cup is hugely weakened from where it once was due to priority for top 4 for ECL and also when ManU gave it a miss for world club thingy some years back. ECL has become massively more important to teams. Could anyone have predicted that 30 years ago?
Also NFL looking seriously at a UK franchise to expand their product to new markets, Olympics introducing new sports ie. snowboarding into winter Olympics which is very successful - boardercross arguably the best event at the winter games.
Cant stop change.
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Complete commonsense, but having, lets say, Celtic alone joining the PL and my team Everton drop out, what's the impact, Everyone playing Celtic get 1 more game with a full stadium, Celtic get 19 games and a load of TV money, that's it, only one winner in that scenario, but no thought for every other Scottish team and the revenue they'd lose and no thought for the team making way for Celtic.
Doon frae Troon
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In recent years Celtic seem to be doing as well as their English counterparts. [and their is only one of them!]
Jacko_G
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As I said Ostrich.
Holland are more than likely going to lose a European place this season due to their dropping coefficient. Ajax and PSV have a proud European history, Ajax especially were known for producing wondrous talent through their youth academy. They now can't compete with the imbalance.
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So it's the Premiership's fault? and creating a UK League will benefit the whole of Europe, I reckon the Ostrich is Scottish.
Doon frae Troon
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The Premiership has created a money machine which has done football no favours.
Ask Portsmouth, Blackpool, Wigan, both Sheffields, Leeds, Newcastle, Middlesborough, Sunderland, Wolves, Birmingham, Villa etc etc.
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All these points are not answering the question about a UK League, has the money ruined English football? Yes, Does English Football need Scottish Clubs? No.
Doon frae Troon
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.......but you have Welsh ones that have a combined fan base that would not come near Celtic's
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And they are allowed by exception due to being members of the Football League for nearly 100yrs, UEFA wouldn't allow it these days........but you have Welsh ones that have a combined fan base that would not come near Celtic's
Never denied Celtic have a fantastic fan base and support and would add that support to any league, but it's all about what's good for Celtic, seriuosly, What do you think the impact would be on Scottish football if Celtic moved to the Prem.
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But yet you want an UK league and suggest it will bring in more money ?
Do you want a UK league so that Scottish teams get more money ?
Pin-seeker
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Celtic would add nothing to the Premier League,they'd just be another Newcastle.
Leave them where they are.
Leave them where they are.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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Oh they would - as they'd only be in the Premier League if Rangers were there also - and so as a result you'd have the delight of OF games.
Very good points. I think there are a lot of PL teams (Villa WBA etc) who fail to sell out regularly. The FA cup lost its glamour many years ago and I don't think that will ever come back. The big teams will never target it, especially those in CL or Europa league campaigns.
However I don't think there is too much that football and the FA/PL can do to market or do things differently and certainly can't see them going down the NFL route and playing games abroad, certainly on a regular basis
davidy233
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Stuff having a UK league - Celtic and Rangers fans put out this fantasy every couple of years and some of them actually believe it's possible - it's not
Sunderland had only a "paltry" 39k at the match on Saturday. Not bad considering how awful they are. Plenty of empty seats but that is because the stadium capacity at 49k is too large for the size of the club. The overall PL product is not stale, it will just vary according to the ups and downs of each club
