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All historical films have an element of guesswork in the conversations, liberties taken with timelines and certain settings. They need to happen to keep the story moving, to make things fit within the time allowed. If you kept rigidly to the story then you would need a mini series, not a film. You need to suspend the pedantry for a while, sit back and enjoy the ride.

If you find an interest in Bruce and fancy learning more in the context of a ripping yarn - I recommend the Nigel Tranter Bruce Trilogy. He really brings the main players of late 13thC and early 14thC Scotland alive.
 
If you find an interest in Bruce and fancy learning more in the context of a ripping yarn - I recommend the Nigel Tranter Bruce Trilogy. He really brings the main players of late 13thC and early 14thC Scotland alive.
Spooky....I downloaded that on Kindle last night at the bargain price of 99p.
Tranter is a brilliant storyteller and I have read most of his books.
Met him a couple of times as a young boy, he was a friend of my Aunts.
 
Like you, I thought it started slowly. And yes, it did improve but I thought it a little shallow at times. I think you're right, a mini-series might have been better. At least that way they could have given some time to add depth to the characters. Mind you, the guy that played Douglas was excellent. Had me convinced he was a mad berserker! Edward's son played the part well too.

Apparently Edward II was pretty weak and bullied by has father....but he commanded a large army...

Mini-series based upon the Tranter Trilogy would be great. Think I will re-read.

I am thinking I might regale/inflict the audience at my Burns Supper on 19th Jan with a rousing rendition of Scots Wha Hae (of course everyone knew that Burns wrote it - that song we used to sing at Hampden and Murrayfield - before FoS came on the scene - but never knew all the words)
 
Is there really a big enough market for a predominantly Sottish minority interest, for a big budget mini series based on 800 year old stuff no one apart from the Scottish are interested in?

Just asking?

And yes, Mel Gibsons Braveheart was box office, but that was mainly because, at the time, Mel G could have put out utter garbage, and it would have sold on the back of it being him.
 
I think the point was more that there was sufficient going on at that time that would be better served via a mini series than in a time restricted film. Lots of intrigue, different groups, changing sides, betrayal etc. The lack of a mini series probably answers your question.
 
Is there really a big enough market for a predominantly Sottish minority interest, for a big budget mini series based on 800 year old stuff no one apart from the Scottish are interested in?

Just asking?

Regardless of the nationality, the events of this period and the people involved are worthy of any potential viewing audience, if it was made in the right way.

Take wolf hall for example, I couldn’t give a monkeys about the court of Henry viii but that was bloody good tv and had me hooked, because it was very well made with the time and scale to breath life into these real characters. That is what we are trying to say about this, if made properly the material is all there for someone to make a great mini series of it.

You have blood and gore, kings and queens, massive battles, murder, corruption, betrayal and political intrigue - essentially game of thrones but without the dragons!
 
Is there really a big enough market for a predominantly Sottish minority interest, for a big budget mini series based on 800 year old stuff no one apart from the Scottish are interested in?

Just asking?

And yes, Mel Gibsons Braveheart was box office, but that was mainly because, at the time, Mel G could have put out utter garbage, and it would have sold on the back of it being him.
baring in mind 90% of yanks think they are descended from Scots, of course there's no market :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
baring in mind 90% of yanks think they are descended from Scots, of course there's no market :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
I thought they were all Irish :unsure:.

I feel sorry for the Welsh in all of this. No one ever seems to want to be descended from Wales yet it is a lovely place. They need to market themselves better to get the American dollar.
 
I thought they were all Irish :unsure:.

I feel sorry for the Welsh in all of this. No one ever seems to want to be descended from Wales yet it is a lovely place. They need to market themselves better to get the American dollar.

Don't forget the part the Welsh can claim to have in the exploits of William Wallace - after all Welsh would have been his first (maybe only) language. And they have Owen Glendooor.
 
Didn't their decendents all move to Patagonia.
A good number.

I find the whole Americans wanting to be something else other than Americans very odd / amusing. They are vehemently patriotic yet so many are desperate to trace their ancestors and then make claim to that country. Even the titles that are given now, Italian American, Irish American etc. Why not just American?

Never Welsh American though. I have an image of a small group, no more than 5 people, under this banner meeting once a year to drink tea and eat Bara brith :coffee:.
 
baring in mind 90% of yanks think they are descended from Scots, of course there's no market :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

I think you may be confusing Canada with USA.

Every recent POTUS has desperately sought to show he has ancestral connections with Ireland but Trump aside, I don't recall too many making the same claims for Scotland.

Canada is a different story with a very large proportion of the population having Scottish heritage.
 
I think you may be confusing Canada with USA.

Every recent POTUS has desperately sought to show he has ancestral connections with Ireland but Trump aside, I don't recall too many making the same claims for Scotland.

Canada is a different story with a very large proportion of the population having Scottish heritage.
I said think, not they were:ROFLMAO:
the thousands coming up here every year and too Scotland in general would disagree> My wife and her friend do Outlander Tours and pretty much every one of those going on them are claiming Scottish Heritage FYI Trumps mother was from the Western isles.

anyway my comment on 90% was tongue in cheek:rolleyes:
 
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