Relief out of GUR bunker

[Skytot]

Playing a friendly round tonight with 4 pals . Me and one pal hit our balls into a greenside bunker which was GUR on a par 3 .. One lad said we could drop on the fringe of the green not nearer the hole because this is the nearest point of relief . Sounds legit to me but the 4 golf mate in our group wasn’t 100% saying it’s drop at the point of entry

 

[nickjdavis]

You take relief from GUR just as you would any other abnormal ground condition...the nearest point of complete relief not nearer the hole.

 

[KenL]

A 5 ball.

 

[KenL]

You take relief from GUR just as you would any other abnormal ground condition...the nearest point of complete relief not nearer the hole.

I’ve heard before someone say that you MUST drop behind the bunker otherwise you are gaining an advantage. A quick, “could you show me that rule please” soon shuts them up.

 

[Skytot]

A 5 ball.

Ha ha ..
It’s not the 1st time we’ve played a 5 ball but not this time just me not concentrating

 

[HampshireHog]

Dropping on the Fringe is fine, on the green isn’t.

 

[KenL]

Dropping on the Fringe is fine, on the green isn’t.

What if the green is within 1 club length of the NTP and not nearer the hole?
What rule prevents you dropping on the green?
Thanks.

 

[backwoodsman]

What if the green is within 1 club length of the NTP and not nearer the hole?
What rule prevents you dropping on the green?
Thanks.

16.1b

 

[rulefan]

Dropping on the Fringe is fine, on the green isn’t.

Which Rule is that?

 

[IanM]

16.1b limits the relief area to the "General Area," but applies to a ball that was originally in the General Area!

So, if the ball was the bunker, 16.1b doesn't apply.

 

[peld]

16.1b limits the relief area to the "General Area," but applies to a ball that was originally in the General Area!

So, if the ball was the bunker, 16.1b doesn't apply.

but how do you drop it in the bunker if its GUR?!

 

[Arthur Wedge]

 

[IanM]

but how do you drop it in the bunker if its GUR?!

I didn't mean you drop in the bunker, I meant the stipulation didn't apply. Although the use of language in the rule and the above players guide could be slightly confusing. I'll look this up when I get in

 

[HampshireHog]

Which Rule is that?

16.1b

 

[HampshireHog]

What if the green is within 1 club length of the NTP and not nearer the hole?
What rule prevents you dropping on the green?
Thanks.

From the Rules App



Therefore you must drop in the general area when proceeding under 16.1b

 

[HampshireHog]

16.1b limits the relief area to the "General Area," but applies to a ball that was originally in the General Area!

So, if the ball was the bunker, 16.1b doesn't apply.

Unless it is GUR

 

[jim8flog]

Playing a friendly round tonight with 4 pals . Me and one pal hit our balls into a greenside bunker which was GUR on a par 3 .. One lad said we could drop on the fringe of the green not nearer the hole because this is the nearest point of relief . Sounds legit to me but the 4 golf mate in our group wasn’t 100% saying it’s drop at the point of entry

The bit in bold

Your mate is getting confused with the rules for Penalty Areas.

Do not forget GUR means you can still pay from the bunker, often the better choice where I play. Mandatory relief is only required if the club has a LR prohibiting play from GUR or has also marked it as a No Play Zone (NPZ).

 

[rulefan]

From the Rules App

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Therefore you must drop in the general area when proceeding under 16.1b

That was my understanding but oddly 16.1b does not include those words in my Rules of Golf manual.

 

[tobybarker]

Unless it is GUR

... Because gur is always considered to be part of the ga?

 

[HampshireHog]

... Because gur is always considered to be part of the ga?

A GUR bunker is considered as part of the general area.