relief from Hollow tine on the fairway

[patricks148]

My club have hollow tine the whole of the 13th Fairways which is S1, so a fairly trick hole.

is there any relief from this and can you clean and place the ball, rather than drop it?

 

[duncan mackie]

My club have hollow tine the whole of the 13th Fairways which is S1, so a fairly trick hole.

is there any relief from this and can you clean and place the ball, rather than drop it?

Have to ask your committee. It would be by LR and the LR would define the relief option.

IMO the use of the GUR definition of a hole made by the green keeper wouldn't apply to these.

 

[patricks148]

Thanks, but no one has a clue, least of all the committee and head GK

 

[Foxholer]

Thanks, but no one has a clue, least of all the committee and head GK

Perhaps they (Committee and HGK should consider talking to each other!

LR is the obvious solution - with, I'd suggest, lift clean and place as per 'preferred lies' part of the LR.

It's surprising how a little communication can make things simple, while zero comunication can make things really difficult!

 

[duncan mackie]

Thanks, but no one has a clue, least of all the committee and head GK

So that's a 'no' then...

 

[rulefan]

Introduce this Local Rule

d. Aeration Holes
When a course has been aerated, a Local Rule permitting relief, without penalty, from an aeration hole may be warranted. The following Local Rule is recommended:

"Through the green, a ball that comes to rest in or on an aeration hole may be lifted without penalty, cleaned and dropped as near as possible to the spot where it lay but not nearer the hole. The ball when dropped must first strike a part of the course through the green.
On the putting green, a ball that comes to rest in or on an aeration hole may be placed at the nearest spot not nearer the hole that avoids the situation.

PENALTY FOR BREACH OF LOCAL RULE:
Match play - Loss of hole; Stroke play - Two strokes."

You may wish to limit it to the the 13th fairway.

 

[CliveW]

"Appendix 1 - Local Rules; Conditions of the Competition, Part A Local Rules, 3 Course Conditions

d. Aeration Holes.

When a course has been aerated, a Local Rule permitting relief, without penalty, from an aeration hole may be warranted. The following Local Rule is recommended:

"Through the Green, a ball that comes to rest in or on an aeration hole may be lifted without penalty, cleaned and dropped as near as possible to the spot where it lay but not nearer the hole. The ball when dropped must first strike a part of the course through the green.

On the putting green, a ball that comes to rest in or on an aeration hole may be placed at the nearest spot not nearer the hole that avoids the situation."

 

[CliveW]

Damn! All that time wasted.

 

[Colin L]

This is the 2019 model local rule -

If a player's ball lies in or touches an aeration hole:
(a) Ball in General Area. The player may take relief under Rule 16.1b. If the ball comes to rest in another aeration hole the player may take relief again under this Local Rule.
(b) Ball on Putting Green. The player may take relief under Rule 16.1d.
But interference does not exist if the aeration hole only interferes with the player's stance or, on the putting green, on the player's line of play.

 

[jim8flog]

My club have hollow tine the whole of the 13th Fairways which is S1, so a fairly trick hole.

is there any relief from this and can you clean and place the ball, rather than drop it?

Remember when Winter Rules are in operation (ie Preferred lies) you can use that rule as well. Placing may be preferred to the ball possibly stopping two clubs lengths away from where it originally lay.

 

[rulefan]

If it is outside the approved dates for PL for handicap qualifiers you will need to get permission from the county. They are unlikely to refuse but will probably suggest you use the aeration specific local rule.

 

[Colin L]

I wouldn't be too concerned at this late stage about the dropped ball rolling too far. Come January the ball will have to stay in a one club length relief area.

 

[rulefan]

And will be dropped from knee high.