Reece Dempster, murderer and rapist.

[Slime]

One of the worst human beings on the planet.
His rape and murder victim was aged 89 years old.
Isn't it time to change things?

 

[Tashyboy]

Not had an infraction yet and am certainly not going to go into an expletive rant about how and why this low life piece of crap is still breathing the same air as me, just so I get an infraction. I will let the politically correct come along and explain why he Is misunderstood and deserves another chance.

 

[Ye Olde Boomer]

Backstory?

 

[Hobbit]

Backstory?

Broke into the home of an 89 year old woman whilst she was in bed. He was looking for money to fuel his drug habit. Raped and murdered her.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Backstory?

The poster believes that the UK should go backwards and bring back the death penalty despite it being proven to not work as a deterrent , cost millions , innocent people have hanged etc so everytime there is a horrific crime for which the criminal must face the consequences of the laws of our land - Slime brings back the question of the death penalty again.

Believe this was the last time

https://forums.golf-monthly.co.uk/threads/out-on-licence.103577/

The guy who committed this horrific crime should be locked away for life in maximum security with bare basics only

 

[Tashyboy]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-51388635#share-tools

here’s a thought YOB, If the dick had broken into a house in the USA. We would not be mourning the death of an innocent pensioner.

 

[Ye Olde Boomer]

OK, Googled it.

Obviously a horribly damaged human being.

Many states in the US--not-mine--still have a death penalty.

i know that you've long since pensioned-off your hangmen.

We got rid of it too, but right wing elements brought it back.

It's a difficult subject but I do have opinions.

The American system of lethal injection is intentionally not humane, and I find that to be disgraceful.
If we terminated these broken lives as humanely as we euthanize a hopelessly sick beloved pet, that would still remove the monster from society.

Were I given a choice of lifetime incarceration or humane euthanasia, I would choose the latter.
The former is torture of an unspeakable kind.

Being human, we are enraged at the horrific actions of these deranged criminals.
Revenge is not an appropriate governmental function, even if it's a natural human inclination.
But humanely relieving broken humans of a life not given to humanity doesn't seem so wrong.

 

[PhilTheFragger]

However, keeping him in max security is going to also cost millions

We haven't executed anyone since 1964 and yes I accept that there have been miscarriages of justice and innocent people hanged
But that was nearly 50 years ago, Forensics have moved on leaps and bounds in that time and continue to do so.

The evidence gathering is now so careful that there is cast iron proof of guilt

I have no problem in the death penalty being restored where there is absolutely no possibility of error, especially in high profile cased like this
Crimes of passion etc are not the same and should not have this penalty

LP says its not a deterrent, I would disagree, just my opinion

If I go and murder someone, i'd probably be out in 15 years, If I thought a long drop was involved, I'd get someone else to do it

 

[Ye Olde Boomer]

I would accept humane euthanasia to terminate the offender but not inhumane execution.
That's the point I was trying to make.
Our Lethal Injection methods are deliberately not humane and thus I cannot condone them..

 

[Tashyboy]

I actually thought the other day when the terrorist was shot by the police/ SAS. Was that not a form of “ death penalty”. Now don’t get me wrong I agree with what the police did. The choice or line of “ can we talk about it” had been crossed. Didn’t see many people complain about the outcome of the terrorist. Was the pensioner not filled with terror what happened to her. For me the outcome should be the same.

 

[Tashyboy]

I would accept humane euthanasia to terminate the offender but not inhumane execution.
That's the point I was trying to make.
Our Lethal Injection methods are deliberately not humane and thus I cannot condone them..

without googling it YOB, Whats the thought process behind having inhumane injections.

 

[Imurg]

Could it be argued that some people just dont deserve to live?
For crimes such as this, where proof is definite, where the crime is so shocking....
Forget it being a deterrent....does such evil deserve to be fed and watered for the rest of his life at our expense..?
What does that achieve?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

However, keeping him in max security is going to also cost millions

We haven't executed anyone since 1964 and yes I accept that there have been miscarriages of justice and innocent people hanged
But that was nearly 50 years ago, Forensics have moved on leaps and bounds in that time and continue to do so.

The evidence gathering is now so careful that there is cast iron proof of guilt

I have no problem in the death penalty being restored where there is absolutely no possibility of error, especially in high profile cased like this
Crimes of passion etc are not the same and should not have this penalty

LP says its not a deterrent, I would disagree, just my opinion

If I go and murder someone, i'd probably be out in 15 years, If I thought a long drop was involved, I'd get someone else to do it

All evidence points to it not being a deterrent , any study out state that there is no evidence to shows it acts as a deterrent- it’s not stopping people in countries who have the death penalty committing these crimes , it didn’t stop them when we had.

Multiple studies been done by many people

it also costs someone more to stay in death row and then act out the death penalty than it does to have someone in either solitary confinement.

There are still many cases of miscarriage of justices where innocents are being found guilty only to be cleared later

But the punishment/justice system does need strengthing of that there is no doubt - stronger sentences, removal of luxuries etc etc but it will never including the re introduction to the death penalty

 

[Ye Olde Boomer]

There are three injections. One halts breathing while the victim is still conscious. This is intentional to be punitive. I find it obscene.

When we euthanize pets, the first injection is anesthesia and the animal is peacefully put down.

As for a deterrent, a deranged mind is not deterred in any logical way.
The threat of capital punishment does not deter murderers.

 

[SocketRocket]

It doesn't have to be a deterent its a punishment.

 

[Ye Olde Boomer]

But the punishment/justice system does need strengthing of that there is no doubt - stronger sentences, removal of luxuries etc etc but it will never including the re introduction to the death penalty

How is the incarceration that you describe not more horrific and Draconian than humane euthanasia?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

How is the incarceration that you describe not more horrific and Draconian than humane euthanasia?

Because the person is still alive ?

 

[Ye Olde Boomer]

Because the person is still alive ?

Valuing life in absolute rather than qualitative terms is ludicrous to me.
Opinions vary, I guess.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-51388635#share-tools

here’s a thought YOB, If the dick had broken into a house in the USA. We would not be mourning the death of an innocent pensioner.

Are you saying they don’t have this crime over there? Is that because everybody who breaks in to a house in the USA intending to murder someone is shot before or whilst committing the crime?
Or are you just rambling?

Just like the girl in Middlesbrough this week who was cleared of murder and manslaughter after stabbing her father to death in self defence, sadly the old lady was unable to defend herself and he should be locked up, hard labour, isolated, till the day he dies.

 

[Imurg]

This guy is 23
He could easily live another 50+ years
Isnt keeping him isolated for that amount of time potentially more inhumane..?
The psychological effects of isolation for that long must be immense