Real Madrid v Man United

Andy Carroll would score a header like that ( he would miss loads of easier chances) but scoring one goal doesnt make him a better player. Messi's all round game is superior to ronaldo and he is more of a team player, take away free kicks and penalties and that's nearly 50% of ronaldo's goals

We're debating who is the best player in the world and you use Andy Carroll to support your argument............................:rofl:.

Messi appears more of a team player because the rest of the team are 'Messi' players, in that the whole team plays in such a way that bringing Messi into the game is their main focus, whereas in Real Madrid no one player is the central figure of their attacking intent.

Slime.
 
We're debating who is the best player in the world and you use Andy Carroll to support your argument............................:rofl:.

Messi appears more of a team player because the rest of the team are 'Messi' players, in that the whole team plays in such a way that bringing Messi into the game is their main focus, whereas in Real Madrid no one player is the central figure of their attacking intent.

Slime.
You based your argument on ONE headed goal! If that's the basis of the best player in the world then it's got to be Carroll playing in allardyce's long ball team

I was responding to both earlier posts regarding messi or ronaldo but I would also add van persie into the pot as best player
 
Im not sure how Messi would cope with The Premiership, Ronaldo went missing often enough with solid man marking
Messi has been man marked plenty of times. All that does is take a player out of the opposing team because they are either unable to stick to him or get carded for fouling him. That's the reason why many teams don't go down that route.
 
I'm going to be controversial and say that whoever plays in front of Iniesta is probably going to be thought of as the best in the World. So, I think I'm saying that Iniesta is the best, but he doesn't score all the goals so wont be talked about in the same breath....

Not at all controversial. I think he is a smidgen behind the other two. The way he played against RM in the cup was incredible.
As for who is the better, CR or LM? It's too close to call IMO.
 
Ever seen Messi score with a header like that....................................thought not!

you never watched the champs league final Barca vs Utd in Rome,then?

I'm going to be controversial and say that whoever plays in front of Iniesta is probably going to be thought of as the best in the World. So, I think I'm saying that Iniesta is the best, but he doesn't score all the goals so wont be talked about in the same breath....

I agree,Messi agrees too.
 
I'm going to be controversial and say that whoever plays in front of Iniesta is probably going to be thought of as the best in the World. So, I think I'm saying that Iniesta is the best, but he doesn't score all the goals so wont be talked about in the same breath....

At last! I've been saying Iniesta has been the best player for the last few years but thought I was on my own. :D
 
At last! I've been saying Iniesta has been the best player for the last few years but thought I was on my own. :D
It's the fear if being shouted down by all the people who think that the goal scorer is automatically the best. I love watching Messi and Ronaldo. Sublime skill in Messi and pure power from Ronni, but Iniesta's artistry with the ball is mesmerising. Maybe we are fortunate to have all 3.
 
At last! I've been saying Iniesta has been the best player for the last few years but thought I was on my own. :D

And me. In the run-up to the World Cup and during the World Cup, I maintained that he was the one to watch. Goal scorers come and go but playmakers are worth their weight in gold.
 
We're debating who is the best player in the world and you use Andy Carroll to support your argument............................:rofl:.

Messi appears more of a team player because the rest of the team are 'Messi' players, in that the whole team plays in such a way that bringing Messi into the game is their main focus, whereas in Real Madrid no one player is the central figure of their attacking intent.

Slime.

Fottball isn't about building a team around one player to win all individual accolades.

Maybe Barcelona,play more to Messi, but also the other way around.

Even if Ronaldo was the better player and scored twice as many goals as Messi in his career. I would love to see Messi say, yeah, but show me your medals.
 
To me the best player in the world has to be able to win a match on his own,on
numerous occasions.
Messi and Ronaldo do this week in week out.
Messi imo just edges it.
 
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