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StuartD
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Yes there have been a few and you need to change your settings, I am only at page 16
lobthewedge
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Agree with craw, Rangers should have been left to die after being stripped and squeezed for every possible penny to pay off genuine creditors.
I hope that the genuine football fans trying to create a new and more wholesome Rangers succeed in ressurecting a club, starting from the very bottom rung of Scottish football.
Sadly I fear this wont be the case, the toxic DNA will live on and sooner or later the new club will be hijacked by bigots.
I hope that the genuine football fans trying to create a new and more wholesome Rangers succeed in ressurecting a club, starting from the very bottom rung of Scottish football.
Sadly I fear this wont be the case, the toxic DNA will live on and sooner or later the new club will be hijacked by bigots.
FairwayDodger
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I fear you're probably right but we live in hope. Just maybe if they're put in div 3 and given an even break they can successfully ditch the sectarian baggage. There needs to be a concerted effort from day 1 to ensure that happens but I'm not convinced those in charge care enough.
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The £5.5 mill will go to Duff and Phelps as they'll be top of the ever lengthening creditors queue. All that'll be left will be enough for a paper and a packet of hobnobs for SuperAlly to enjoy. Why are we hearing nothing from Coisty?
Heading straight to division 3 is not fair on the small clubs wanting into the SFL. As a kid I remember it took decades to let Highland teams in just because central belt teams didn't want to travel up there. CaleyT and Ross are now both premier league so that shows every team, no matter how small should be given an equal chance, no pushing in cos we're Rang...Sevco.
Had a look at the Rangers Forum, even some of the diehards on there are starting to see a little humour in this fiasco, someone was asking of the players that are left, who's maw was going to be washing the strips!
Heading straight to division 3 is not fair on the small clubs wanting into the SFL. As a kid I remember it took decades to let Highland teams in just because central belt teams didn't want to travel up there. CaleyT and Ross are now both premier league so that shows every team, no matter how small should be given an equal chance, no pushing in cos we're Rang...Sevco.
Had a look at the Rangers Forum, even some of the diehards on there are starting to see a little humour in this fiasco, someone was asking of the players that are left, who's maw was going to be washing the strips!
FairwayDodger
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I tried to tackle this earlier but don't think I really managed to express it properly.
The fair thing would be to invite applicants for the spare place in div 3 and then the bids could be compared and the best one taken.
But you need to be realistic. Suppose Huntly put a bid in and it was compared against a new club, with a 50,000 seater UEFA registered stadium, state of the art training facilities and the likelihood of the second biggest support in the entire country (even though crowds will obviously be much lower than they were in the SPL). The "new Rangers" bid would just blow the others away, they'd be wasting their time and money.
The only reason to award the spot to one of the other bids would be historical, bitterness, punishment whatever but not based on a objective decision on what's best for the league.
Trying not to sound "arrogant" but that's just the way I see it.
Had a look at the Rangers Forum, even some of the diehards on there are starting to see a little humour in this fiasco, someone was asking of the players that are left, who's maw was going to be washing the strips!
:lol:
StuartD
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Sadly or not sadly (depending on your allegiances) the only way to squeeze enough money for creditors is to sell the assets these being a training ground and a football stadium. The football stadium is not much use to anything other than a football club, therefore any buyer would be looking to continue/ resurrect the club. Ibrox is a pretty poor area and don’t think any developer would be looking to build houses there especially as the Front building is Grade A listed and would have to be retained. As for supermarket/shopping development, both are pretty close nearby. The training ground at Milngavie would be of more interest to a property developer I would think, but I have heard reports that planning permission for houses on that land had been refused a number of times but don’t know if that is true or not.
As for the sectarian issues I would like to think that the newco club could be free of it but I unfortunately don’t think that will be the case. Some have said on here that they would like to see Rangers die and be rid of the sectarian baggage it brings. Can’t argue with the wish to be rid of it for good but I think the bigots would attach themselves elsewhere and it would creep back into football. Football is only an outlet for sectarianism in this country and the problems go far deeper in my opinion.
As for the sectarian issues I would like to think that the newco club could be free of it but I unfortunately don’t think that will be the case. Some have said on here that they would like to see Rangers die and be rid of the sectarian baggage it brings. Can’t argue with the wish to be rid of it for good but I think the bigots would attach themselves elsewhere and it would creep back into football. Football is only an outlet for sectarianism in this country and the problems go far deeper in my opinion.
Val
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They aren't getting a free ride, they are getting a long slow torture from everyone including their current chief exec.
It's hilarious for everyone in Scottish football unconected to them
Some have said on here that they would like to see Rangers die and be rid of the sectarian baggage it brings. Can’t argue with the wish to be rid of it for good but I think the bigots would attach themselves elsewhere and it would creep back into football. Football is only an outlet for sectarianism in this country and the problems go far deeper in my opinion
Does this sectarian issue only involve Rangers or is it an issue that Celtic have but like to disguise it. I do not follow Scottish football but have in the past read disturbing stories in regards to Celtic.
I think the quicker a decision is made about the rangers the better but all this talk is lame and I think the decision has already been made and it will have been done for the best interest in Scottish football and that the rangers will continue to be a big part of Scottish football.
Does this sectarian issue only involve Rangers or is it an issue that Celtic have but like to disguise it. I do not follow Scottish football but have in the past read disturbing stories in regards to Celtic.
I think the quicker a decision is made about the rangers the better but all this talk is lame and I think the decision has already been made and it will have been done for the best interest in Scottish football and that the rangers will continue to be a big part of Scottish football.
FairwayDodger
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No offence Deekc, but the last thing this thread needs is someone stirring it. Apologies if your enquiry is genuine but there are too many red lights flashing to go down this route.
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lobthewedge
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Both clubs have it, but I'm not going to get drawn into any kind of argument about who is worse because I really couldnt care less about either club to tell the truth.
My own theory is that if one club and the associated bigotry disappears, the other will soon follow. They feed off and fuel one another as far as the bigotry is concerned, so if one dies common sense would dictate that over time the other one would eventually disipate.
Just a theory, but like Stuart alluded to it is a far greater problem ingrained within Scottish society as a whole and would probably only rear its ugly head elsewhere.
Doon frae Troon
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Well said Dodger.
Doon frae Troon
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As a Hearts supporter the demise of Rangers is a bit of a worry.
We have a small group of bigoted monkeys in our support, let us hope the don't try to pick up the mantle of thier Glesga cousins.
Or even worse the Glesga cousins decide to transfer to Hearts.
We have a small group of bigoted monkeys in our support, let us hope the don't try to pick up the mantle of thier Glesga cousins.
Or even worse the Glesga cousins decide to transfer to Hearts.
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FairwayDodger
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I understand your concern. Plenty of supporters travel from Edinburgh to Ibrox so might attach themselves.
I doubt it though. I go to see Hibs a fair bit but even if Rangers disappeared completely I couldn't see myself becoming a "fan".
chris661
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They managed quite well with highbury (?) to keep the facade and develop it and with the alleged brown envelope culture at Glasgow city council it wouldn't seem that difficult to get a work around.
The training complex could be sold and the rugby team relocate and their old ground re developed, an option I have heard mooted even before I left Scotland years ago!
The sectarian thing should be consigned to the histor bin and frankly they should build a bloody big jail and throw them all in there as far as I am concerned. Although as Stuart rightly points out it runs far far deeper than football.
Doon frae Troon
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Oh Dear it is all kicking off now.
The SPL are proposing two 12 team leagues with Rangers playing in League 2 this season. The leagues will have automatic promotion and playoffs.
If the SFL do not agree the SPL will start a Div2 and invite SFL Div 1 sides to join.
Not much mention of the SFA here, are they hiding under the blankets.
Sounds quite good to me.
The SPL are proposing two 12 team leagues with Rangers playing in League 2 this season. The leagues will have automatic promotion and playoffs.
If the SFL do not agree the SPL will start a Div2 and invite SFL Div 1 sides to join.
Not much mention of the SFA here, are they hiding under the blankets.
Sounds quite good to me.
Val
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Sounds like bully boy tactics, shocking if true however given the mood and stance from SPL and Div 1 clubs I'd be surprised if this is anything more than journalistic horse manure
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