Racist Ryanair Passenger

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Liverpoolphil said:
Why don’t you watch it then ?

You have posted a lot in the thread questioning people about their own reactions from what appears some sort of high ground looking to prove a point and you haven’t even bothered to watch the clip so you would at least be posting from a level of knowledge of the incident - but you haven’t so I’m guessing you are just looking to stir something up.

Watch it - form some sort of opinion and then preach if you so wish
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Why is it the reaction of a number of members on here, when questioned about their comments immediately jump on the troll/stirring up/etc etc, I'm trying to debate things here, yet you get defensive and others come away with trollling.

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pauldj42 said:
The clip is linked in the first post, why not watch it and tell us how you feel about it rather than question others reaction, maybe you’ll see a different point of view or understand why some feel as they do.
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Right I've watched it, and yes it's unpleasant, am I offended by it ? Absolutely not, why would I ?
 
I am assuming that most people have watched the video clip. I have had a moan that someone has filmed it yet not stepped in and since had his 15 mins of fame. But that aside the clip is there to be viewed.Yet some folk are passing comment without even viewing the clip. How can there opinions hold any weight when they are not aware of the facts.

All that aside, glad to see that said rascist person has been identified, which wouldn't of taken much doing. Glad to see that eventually Ryanair have contacted said abipused women. Glad to see that Essex police have passed details onto Spanish police.
 
RandG said:
Right I've watched it, and yes it's unpleasant, am I offended by it ? Absolutely not, why would I ?
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Might not be offended, but disgusted by another's actions. Probably. BTW, I had an unpleasant cup of tea after golf. Unpleasant is not a word I would of used for this vile rascist bully's cowardly attack on a disabled pensioner.
 
RandG said:
It is not for me to be offended on someone else's behalf, the only person or persons who should be offended by that are those who were subjected to it.
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Never asked for you to be offended on someone else’s behalf, I asked if you found his language offensive.
Maybe you could answer this one?
Would you say he was racially abusive?
 
pauldj42 said:
But you don’t find racial abuse as offensive?
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I haven't said that at any time. I have questioned why someone would be offended at the actions of someone being racially offensive to someone else when they weren't there, and is offended retrospectively, just seems very bizarre. Its like those folk who find out about something on telly days after the fact, despite having never seen it, and then go out their way to make a complaint about it. o_O
 
RandG said:
I haven't said that at any time. I have questioned why someone would be offended at the actions of someone being racially offensive to someone else when they weren't there, and is offended retrospectively, just seems very bizarre. Its like those folk who find out about something on telly days after the fact, despite having never seen it, and then go out their way to make a complaint about it. o_O
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I kind of agree with this. I don’t find it offensive personally as it’s not directed at me. I find it shocking & I’m sympathetic to the woman that was abused. What she was subjected to has no place in modern civilised society. Would I have intervened? Like to think I would based on the above
 
RandG said:
I haven't said that at any time. I have questioned why someone would be offended at the actions of someone being racially offensive to someone else when they weren't there, and is offended retrospectively, just seems very bizarre. Its like those folk who find out about something on telly days after the fact, despite having never seen it, and then go out their way to make a complaint about it. o_O
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I’m offended by his outburst, not on behalf of the woman, I’m offended as a human being that this world we live in breeds such embarrassing creatures as him.
Why when someone says they find offense in something or are offended it’s naturally assumed to be on behalf of someone else.
It’s perfectly acceptable to be offended based on your own values and standards.
 
pauldj42 said:
I’m offended by his outburst, not on behalf of the woman, I’m offended as a human being that this world we live in breeds such embarrassing creatures as him.
Why when someone says they find offense in something or are offended it’s naturally assumed to be on behalf of someone else.
It’s perfectly acceptable to be offended based on your own values and standards.
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That's fair enough and it's also perfectly acceptable to question it and try and debate it, unless it's on here of course cause when you try and debate anything you get called a troll, how very novel.

As it happens, I find very little to be offended about in life, it's only feelings afterall and sticks and stones etc etc.
 
RandG said:
That's fair enough and it's also perfectly acceptable to question it and try and debate it, unless it's on here of course cause when you try and debate anything you get called a troll, how very novel.

As it happens, I find very little to be offended about in life, it's only feelings afterall and sticks and stones etc etc.
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How can you expect it to be took any other way when you admit not watching the clip, despite it being linked in the op?
Be careful what you post if any threads involving pets are started
 
pauldj42 said:
How can you expect it to be took any other way when you admit not watching the clip, despite it being linked in the op?
Be careful what you post if any threads involving pets are started
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Regardless of the clip or not, I just cannot understand how one can be offended by something that doesn't involve them, which is one thing, but for someone not to have even been there and then to be retrospectively offended by it just seems a very strange concept, but apparently if I try and debate as such, I'm a troll :unsure:

I do accept that folk can be more or less offended at certain things, that's fair enough, but retrospectively when it doesn't involve them :eek:


Pets ?? No idea what you're talking about but I am an animal lover and a hypocrite (y)
 
RandG said:
Regardless of the clip or not, I just cannot understand how one can be offended by something that doesn't involve them, which is one thing, but for someone not to have even been there and then to be retrospectively offended by it just seems a very strange concept, but apparently if I try and debate as such, I'm a troll :unsure:

I do accept that folk can be more or less offended at certain things, that's fair enough, but retrospectively when it doesn't involve them :eek:


Pets ?? No idea what you're talking about but I am an animal lover and a hypocrite (y)
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But I don’t understand how you can say my reason for being offended is “fair enough” and then in your next post saying when it’s retrospective and not involving them, you don’t get it.
I’ve no issue you not being offended, but I also think you’ve no right to tell me or others we shouldn’t be offended either, ask people to explan why they’re offended, fair enough, but not to judge them.
 
Quote me where I said others "shouldn't be offended"

I have questioned why anyone can be offended at something that doesn't involve them, but it's entirely up to them if they wish to be offended by something, I just find it very strange but at no time have I said they "shouldn't" be. I'm just trying to understand why you or anyone else is, hence my questioning of it, the fair enough came from your explanation of why you were offended.

As for me, I've seen the clip, it wasn't nice but really, in my life, it has absolutely no bearing, I have much more important things to be concerned about.
 
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