QT next week

[c1973]

I'd pay good money to watch QT if as soon as Brand went on one of his speeches on QT someone in the audience just shouted out Parklife.

That was the first thing I thought of. Would be funny.

 

[c1973]

To be fair, his heart is in the right place and I'd never criticise someone for campaigning against homelessness. It's a cause I'm always happy to support.

But someone should tell him you only need a couple of 'big' words in a sentence, he tosses them in there like salt on chips.

 

[CheltenhamHacker]

A waste of space who donated a good deal of money to a worth while cause - :thup:

You make it sound like you could overlook almost anything if someone had donated to JFT96?

 

[User20205]

Cause they can, but anyone who is taken in by the waste of space really needs looking at. He's just a self seeking publicist who appears to be able to take the more venerable in.

I don't really agree. It's too easy to dismiss him as a self publicist, or to deflect the argument by focussing in on his wealth. That's just a massive red herring.

He brings attention to the plight of those in east london, he openly questions the hypocrisy of fox news for example, and people who are otherwise non political are politically engaged because of him.

No one else with his profile is questioning the corportization of politics and society as a whole.

Russell Brands main issue, is that by his own admission, he has no solutions, so it seems at times like he is railing against dieing of the light.

You can't dismiss his voice because you don't like him

 

[Old Skier]

A waste of space who donated a good deal of money to a worth while cause - :thup:

Just donating a pile of cash to a good cause or charity (and most likely claiming it back on tax) does not make you a good person. If that's all it takes Max Clifford must be a saint. Brand is on the comeback trail and needs the good publicity to follow the horrendous acts of the past.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

You make it sound like you could overlook almost anything if someone had donated to JFT96?

Is there something im overlooking in regards Brand ?

 

[User20205]

just donate a pile of cash to a good cause (and most likely claiming it back on tax) does not make you a good person. If that's all it takes Max Clifford must be a saint.

Not really sure why you are comparing him to a convicted sex offender. Apart from winding up Manuel, what's he done?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

just donate a pile of cash to a good cause (and most likely claiming it back on tax) does not make you a good person. If that's all it takes Max Clifford must be a saint.

So what is this awful crime that Russell Brand has committed then ?

Why is it when someone does a bit of good a caveat must be applied ( claiming back on tax )

And what does a convicted sex offender have to do with it ?

 

[Old Skier]

Is there something im overlooking in regards Brand ?

Well published if you can be bothered to check it out

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Well published if you can be bothered to check it out

Not read anything about Brand that makes him that bad a person ?

 

[User20205]

Well published if you can be bothered to check it out

Really? Check what out?

It's irrelevant, as is the line of channel 4 questioning, to the eviction of those in east london.

 

[CheltenhamHacker]

Is there something im overlooking in regards Brand ?

I have no idea, but the logic of your previous post appeared to be that "he has donated to a good cause, ergo, he is worthy of my support". That's all I was asking about

 

[Old Skier]

And what does a convicted sex offender have to do with it ?

He made regular contributions to major charities. My point is that just because you have a pile and are able to chuck the odd bob at a worthwhile cause does not automatically put you down in the good person category.

Especially when past acts show that perhaps you are not.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I have no idea, but the logic of your previous post appeared to be that "he has donated to a good cause, ergo, he is worthy of my support". That's all I was asking about

Didn't realise he needed support in anything or any crime

But as I previously said he went up in my estimation when he sued the rag and then donate his damages to the campaign - it was a selfless act that shows he imo isn't a waste of space.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

He made regular contributions to major charities. My point is that just because you have a pile and are able to chuck the odd bob at a worthwhile cause does not automatically put you down in the good person category.

Especially when past acts show that perhaps you are not.

Which past acts ?

His act made him more than a "waste of space" as you put him

Bringing a convicted sex offender into the debate is irrelevent

 

[Old Skier]

Bringing a convicted sex offender into the debate is irrelevent

You bought someone into the debate who has been arrested on a number of occasions for assault, public damage and 12 times for drug offenses. I don't like him. You have a different opinion. That's life.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

You bought someone into the debate who has been arrested on a number of occasions for assault, public damage and 12 times for drug offenses. I don't like him for his acts. You have a different opinion. That's life.

He was part of the debate from the start ?!

 

[User20205]

You bought someone into the debate who has been arrested on a number of occasions for assault, public damage and 12 times for drug offenses. I don't like him. You have a different opinion. That's life.

So you compare being arrested in the course of political activism & having a illness to serious serial sex offending . Maybe some perspective is needed.

You may not like him, but to dismiss his agenda because of that and the fact he earns a few quid is wrong.

 

[Old Skier]

You may not like him, but to dismiss his agenda because of that and the fact he earns a few quid is wrong.

I dismis his agenda because I believe he has an ulterior motive and I have no time for him because of his past. Those are my opinions right or wrong.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I don't see what all the fuss is about.

Last time Brand was on QT he was awful and Farage cant even handle a debate with half a dozen of Edinburgh students.