Putting yips?

People call different things the yips. This seems to be a case in point. Stop trying to catch each other out. It's petty.
 
In simple terms, the yips are an inability to make a smooth and controlled putting stroke, possibly caused by anxiety and/or a condition known as focal dystonia.
 
delc said:
In simple terms, the yips are an inability to make a smooth and controlled putting stroke, possibly caused by anxiety and/or a condition known as focal dystonia.
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In simple terms, bad putting isn't the yips, nor is changing to a different method you prefer. Very few people have the yips but we've done this before haven't we del?

What exactly is it that you hope to achieve by obsessively bringing it up every 2 weeks. You know that must people on here think you are talking gibberish when it comes to the yips yet you still go on about it. I just don't get it :confused:
 
virtuocity said:
Just like Adam Scott didn't have, yeah?
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Well he admitted that he had no confidence in making putts of 10 feet in, which is probably how the problem starts! Are you also denying that Ernie had the yips as well? His putting stroke became really jerky and stabby after years of having the smoothest putting stroke in the business!
 
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Well he admitted that he had no confidence in making putts of 10 feet in, which is probably how the problem starts! Are you also denying that Ernie had the yips as well? His putting stroke became really jerky and stabby after years of having the smoothest putting stroke in the business!
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Why do you start a new thread on this once a month when there is nothing new to be discussed ?
 
delc said:
Well he admitted that he had no confidence in making putts of 10 feet in, which is probably how the problem starts! Are you also denying that Ernie had the yips as well? His putting stroke became really jerky and stabby after years of having the smoothest putting stroke in the business!
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I have very little confidence making putts of any length. That doesn't mean I have the yips. It means I'm a bad putter who doesn't practice enough.
 
I have struggled with my putting for over 15years. I hate 2-3ft putts with a passion.

I used a broom handle for a while which have me a better rythm, but I found it harder from long range to judge pace so in turn left myself with more of the nasty length putts.

I can go rounds without missing a single short putt, then I can go out and completely miss the cup nearly all day from short range. I am never comfortable over a short putt even if I have holed everyone all day. That's the YIPs, this then effects your stroke and you don't hit putts like you normally do from just an extra couple of feet.

A lot of top players went to the long putter as they found it easier, keegan Bradley was one of these. Then some went to fix poor technique. Garcia had the YIPs, Langar had them worse than anyone I have seen on camera. Watson struggled and continues to.
 
patricks148 said:
Have you thought about a belly/ broom putter?

That might help, like it did Ernie and Adam;)
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I did borrow a broomhandle putter for a few weeks when I first started having problems, but couldn't really get on with it. It gave me a nice smooth stroke, but I found it difficult to hit the ball the right distance on longer putts, and it was a nightmare to use in windy conditions. Also tried left hand below right with a conventional putter and struggled with distance control with that as well, although I was pretty deadly with it from 6ft in. Eventually tried the claw grip out of desperation, and found it worked really well, for me anyway. :)
 
Nashy said:
I have struggled with my putting for over 15years. I hate 2-3ft putts with a passion.

I used a broom handle for a while which have me a better rythm, but I found it harder from long range to judge pace so in turn left myself with more of the nasty length putts.

I can go rounds without missing a single short putt, then I can go out and completely miss the cup nearly all day from short range. I am never comfortable over a short putt even if I have holed everyone all day. That's the YIPs, this then effects your stroke and you don't hit putts like you normally do from just an extra couple of feet.

A lot of top players went to the long putter as they found it easier, keegan Bradley was one of these. Then some went to fix poor technique. Garcia had the YIPs, Langar had them worse than anyone I have seen on camera. Watson struggled and continues to.
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I'm not sure it is. Not being comfortable and having the yips aren't the same thing. I so etimes go through spells where I miss short putts to the right but it's not the yips, it's just something that I need to practice out.

Also, I'm not sure if you are suggesting Keegan Bradley had the yips but if you are, he didn't.
 
Adam Scott appears to be using an Odyssey Tank counterbalance putter now. Designed to feel more like using a broom handle putter. It's not really indicative of someone who has had a problem and has now overcome it. More like someone who putts better with s putter that is about to be outlawed, and therefore is attempting to replicate the feeling whilst staying within the rules.

Note - I'm guessing that it's a Tank based in a picture in the Guardian recently.
 
Scott didn't have the yips. Not on this thread or any of the others you've quoted him on when talking about the yips. He was low on confidence. Many golfers have been there and have they all had the yips? The longer putter gave him the confidence. Simple as that. Nothing else to discuss really. Now he's gone to the counter balanced it gives him the weight he's use to in a conforming model
 
'The yips' seems to be a definite syndrome with the following characteristics:

1) Generally only affects players who have played golf intensively for many years, often at the top level, often excellent putters until the problem sets in. A few exceptions such as Bernhardt Langer who had them by the age of 19.

2) Players often quite suddenly develop a twitchy or jerky putting stroke. Sometimes they also find difficulty in starting the backswing.

3) Generally only fine motor skills such as putting and chipping are affected. Very rarely players can get the full swing yips, which makes it difficult to start the backswing, e.g. Kevin Na and Cobie Legrange. Sergio Garcia's incessant re gripping thing may also have been a form of the full swing yips. We have one reasonably low handicap player at our club who seems to have the full swing yips.

4) The only cure seems to be a change of method.
 
delc said:
'The yips' seems to be a definite syndrome with the following characteristics:

1) Generally only affects players who have played golf intensively for many years, often at the top level, often excellent putters until the problem sets in. A few exceptions such as Bernhardt Langer who had them by the age of 19.

2) Players often quite suddenly develop a twitchy or jerky putting stroke. Sometimes they also find difficulty in starting the backswing.

3) Generally only fine motor skills such as putting and chipping are affected. Very rarely players can get the full swing yips, which makes it difficult to start the backswing, e.g. Kevin Na and Cobie Legrange. Sergio Garcia's incessant re gripping thing may also have been a form of the full swing yips. We have one reasonably low handicap player at our club who seems to have the full swing yips.

4) The only cure seems to be a change of method.
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I'll ask you again

Why have you started this thread again when you have already posted the same stuff numerous times before ?image.jpg
 
delc said:
'The yips' seems to be a definite syndrome with the following characteristics:

1) Generally only affects players who have played golf intensively for many years, often at the top level, often excellent putters until the problem sets in. A few exceptions such as Bernhardt Langer who had them by the age of 19.

2) Players often quite suddenly develop a twitchy or jerky putting stroke. Sometimes they also find difficulty in starting the backswing.

3) Generally only fine motor skills such as putting and chipping are affected. Very rarely players can get the full swing yips, which makes it difficult to start the backswing, e.g. Kevin Na and Cobie Legrange. Sergio Garcia's incessant re gripping thing may also have been a form of the full swing yips. We have one reasonably low handicap player at our club who seems to have the full swing yips.

4) The only cure seems to be a change of method.
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Taking point one alone. Most top pros play intensively for many years and 99.9% on them will never get the yips. It's you rehashing the same topic every month and nothing has changed
 
HomerJSimpson said:
Taking point one alone. Most top pros play intensively for many years and 99.9% on them will never get the yips. It's you rehashing the same topic every month and nothing has changed
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Have you looked at a Champions or European Seniors Tour event recently Homer? About 30% of the players use long putters or non standard putting grips, which suggests that they have had putting problems. The Mayo Clinic study into yips suggested that up to 50% of players will develop them if they play for long enough!

Great players who have definitely had the yips include Harry Vardon, Ben Hogan, Gene Sarazen, Tommy Armour Snr, Sam Snead, Sam Torrance, Sergio Garcia, and now it seems Tiger Woods. For some it was career ending, whereas others found a new way to putt.
 
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delc said:
Have you looked at a Champions or European Seniors Tour event recently Homer? About 30% of the players use long putters or non standard putting grips, which suggests that they have had putting problems. The Mayo Clinic study into yips suggested that up to 50% of players will develop them if they play for long enough!
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I've never heard of the Mayo clinic but - and call me cynical - do they offer treatment for the yips in return for money?

Can you link to a scientific report about the yips by anyone who doesn't profit from people believing in them?
 
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