Professional Golf 2024 & 2025

Lucifer MorningStar said:
People will do strange things when they feel threatened! Such as imposing sanctions that aren’t over zealous that doesn’t mean it can’t compete on its own merit and that can’t be proven until it gives it the chance but it won’t do it to try and prove importance.

I haven’t heard Harris English comments but I’m sure I will at some point and I’ll be interested to read them.
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It was reported in Golfweek. (y)

“It's going to keep evolving. We've got some smart guys at the helm. Now with Brian Rolapp coming in, he's seeing the PGA Tour in a different light. Sometimes change is good. I get that they want all the best players playing together more often, and I think that's what they're going to change down the road maybe in 2027 is have all the tournaments be equal and not have the eight elevated events and the regular events. They'll have 20, 22 events that are all the same. I think that's a good model to have. That's where you'll see all the top players play every single event because you can't really afford to take one off.”

golfweek-eu.usatoday.com

PGA Tour pro hints at changes for 2027 including starting season post-Super Bowl

Could schedule changes be coming to the PGA Tour? Harris English thinks so, and they could be as soon as 2027.
golfweek-eu.usatoday.com golfweek-eu.usatoday.com
 
Mel Smooth said:
It was reported in Golfweek. (y)

“It's going to keep evolving. We've got some smart guys at the helm. Now with Brian Rolapp coming in, he's seeing the PGA Tour in a different light. Sometimes change is good. I get that they want all the best players playing together more often, and I think that's what they're going to change down the road maybe in 2027 is have all the tournaments be equal and not have the eight elevated events and the regular events. They'll have 20, 22 events that are all the same. I think that's a good model to have. That's where you'll see all the top players play every single event because you can't really afford to take one off.”

golfweek-eu.usatoday.com

PGA Tour pro hints at changes for 2027 including starting season post-Super Bowl

Could schedule changes be coming to the PGA Tour? Harris English thinks so, and they could be as soon as 2027.
golfweek-eu.usatoday.com golfweek-eu.usatoday.com
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Ok just read that not sure where your getting the point that it will give freedom of movement between tours and choice where to play as it literally isn’t mentioned anywhere in that article.

What it does mention is removing the inequality of balance across events on the PGAT and not having 8 events hugely weighted over everything else and having equal weighting across 22 events giving players the ability to play a little more with flexibility in America not outside of it. Unless we’re reading it very differently 🤷🏼

Ultimately I agree with English comments and it may actually improve the PGAT and get bigger players playing different events for more variety but certainly doesn’t show freedom of movement outside of PGAT.
 
Lucifer MorningStar said:
Ok just read that not sure where your getting the point that it will give freedom of movement between tours and choice where to play as it literally isn’t mentioned anywhere in that article.

What it does mention is removing the inequality of balance across events on the PGAT and not having 8 events hugely weighted over everything else and having equal weighting across 22 events giving players the ability to play a little more with flexibility in America not outside of it. Unless we’re reading it very differently 🤷🏼

Ultimately I agree with English comments and it may actually improve the PGAT and get bigger players playing different events for more variety but certainly doesn’t show freedom of movement outside of PGAT.
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I didn't say English had said players would be able to move between tours, just that the PGAT might be moving to lesser events. (y)
 
Mel Smooth said:
It's the PIF Saudi International, the final round of the International Series on the Asian Tour. The top 2 players in the international series standings will qualify for LIV 2026.

The promotions event is in January at Black Diamond Ranch in Florida. LIV are charging $25 to enter - subject to meeting the criteria for qualification into the event - which will be passed on to a nominated charity. The PGAT have banned anybody that plays in it, for 12 months, regardless of which tour they play on.

www.livgolf.com

LIV Golf Promotions 2026

LIV Golf Promotions 2026 will take place at Black Diamond Ranch in Lecanto, Florida on January 8-11, 2026. Official practice days for entrants will be January 5-7, 2026.
www.livgolf.com www.livgolf.com
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"The PGAT have banned anybody that plays in it, for 12 months, regardless of which tour they play on."

Can we at least agree that the PGAT has not banned anyone, even though you keep repeating that it has? 🤣
 
cleveland52 said:
"The PGAT have banned anybody that plays in it, for 12 months, regardless of which tour they play on."

Can we at least agree that the PGAT has not banned anyone, even though you keep repeating that it has? 🤣
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No.

There's a long list of players that are currently banned from the PGAT, it's quite easy to look up who they are. I'm not sure why you're even attempting to deny it. Furthermore, the threat of bans for players who take part in the promotions event next year is easily verifiable with a quick internet search.
 
Bans or Fines aren’t a new thing so no one should be surprised

The players are aware of the consequences so they have a choice to make

There is no “free” tour - they all come with some level of restrictions
 
I’ve been listening to some stuff around DP world tour and the players who got their cards through Q school there, didn’t realise there’s a 150k stipend payment just for playing a minimum 15 events.
Always thought it must be brutal expenses and travelling wise for someone who say gets their card and misses cut after cut but you’re pretty much set up for a comfy year regardless of how you play even if say a couple grand per event expense wise.
 
kp17 said:
I’ve been listening to some stuff around DP world tour and the players who got their cards through Q school there, didn’t realise there’s a 150k stipend payment just for playing a minimum 15 events.
Always thought it must be brutal expenses and travelling wise for someone who say gets their card and misses cut after cut but you’re pretty much set up for a comfy year regardless of how you play even if say a couple grand per event expense wise.
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The stipend for the DPWT is necessary, given the tour goes to Australia, India, South Africa, Europe, Dubai, etc. and is offset against winnings rather than in addition to. I think it's in dollars as well but if you, for example, were lucky enough to play 15 t0 20 events, but miss the cut in all of them, you only have £8,500 to £6,500 for travel, hotel, living, caddy, expenses, equipment etc., not to mention the ongoing expenses you have at 'home' that still needs serviced (mortgage, car, insurance, family, etc.)

In all, you're unlikely to actually 'make' money by the end of the year if relying on the stipend; the good thing is, you may not lose a lot either.
 
I watched an interview on the Monday Q info twitter account back in September when the 1st round of DPWT Q school events were taking place - the guy was interviewing a US based golfer about the costs of trying to qualify for the DPWT and Korn Ferry. Basically he wasn't getting much change out of $30 grand if he made it to the final stages of both.

I bet there's loads of wasted talent out there - that never makes it because their parents don't have the finances to support their kids to fulfil their potential.
 
Finances are key in all sports , to be able to make it at the top level you need to have some sort of financial backing and a touch of luck

It’s brutal to try and find a career in professional sport and it also needs a lot of support from family

By brothers middle son was in Academy with Exeter and highlighted as a future star , but they had to go training 4 nights a week at the age of 12 as well as playing all over the south - so family were having to travel 2 hours every night to take him to training and it’s tough

Golf being solo is brutal to be able to get to the top level - we all know golfers that we thought would make it fall down and a lot of times it was due to also having to work etc
 
Mel Smooth said:
No.

There's a long list of players that are currently banned from the PGAT, it's quite easy to look up who they are. I'm not sure why you're even attempting to deny it. Furthermore, the threat of bans for players who take part in the promotions event next year is easily verifiable with a quick internet search.
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Just name one player banned from the PGAT>
 
Arthur Wedge said:
Bans or Fines aren’t a new thing so no one should be surprised

The players are aware of the consequences so they have a choice to make

There is no “free” tour - they all come with some level of restrictions
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I must have missed it. Who's banned from the PGAT? Maybe I don't know the meaning of the word BANNED?
 
I don't know if this still stands but the following were suspended

www.espn.co.uk

PGA Tour suspends LIV golfers from all events

The PGA Tour has suspended the 17 current and former members -- including Phil Mickelson, Dustin Johnson and Sergio Garcia -- who are taking part in the first LIV Golf tournament.
www.espn.co.uk www.espn.co.uk

Suspended, banned, same difference. Unless you want to be pernickety
 
Lord Tyrion said:
I don't know if this still stands but the following were suspended

www.espn.co.uk

PGA Tour suspends LIV golfers from all events

The PGA Tour has suspended the 17 current and former members -- including Phil Mickelson, Dustin Johnson and Sergio Garcia -- who are taking part in the first LIV Golf tournament.
www.espn.co.uk www.espn.co.uk

Suspended, banned, same difference. Unless you want to be pernickety
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Not being nitpicky. Trying to be factual. I keep hearing the word banned thrown around for dramatic purposes.

I simply asked ..... What player was banned?
 
kp17 said:
I’ve been listening to some stuff around DP world tour and the players who got their cards through Q school there, didn’t realise there’s a 150k stipend payment just for playing a minimum 15 events.
Always thought it must be brutal expenses and travelling wise for someone who say gets their card and misses cut after cut but you’re pretty much set up for a comfy year regardless of how you play even if say a couple grand per event expense wise.
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Couple of grand per event seems wildly wildly low. It’s not going to be a book Ryanair and Premier Inn 6 months in advance point-to-point type travel schedule is it? Then there’s caddy, coach, trainer, equipment, agent, organisational assistance, office costs, publicity, etc etc etc. That’s before you pay yourself a penny to actually live and eat the rest of the year. The idea that you could miss 15 cuts and still have plenty of change from 150k and be living in serene comfort is laughable.
 
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