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Premier League 2019-2020 we’re off

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Probably LCFC’s worst performance of the season, players looked a little jaded. Still kept the run going, keeping a 12 point gap to 5th.
 
Utterly, utterly embarrassing, given a total footballing lesson, how to pass, how to create space, how to close down, tackle back, work as a team etc etc, 8 or 9 nil would of been more of a true reflection.
Outplayed in every single aspect.

TBF that could have been a 9-7 game and a lot closer if decisions hadn't gone in our favour.

Even at the match (and corroborated on MOTD) I thought VVD fouled Calvert-Lewin, and for one of our other goals thought VVD pushed Richarlison in the box on the lead up, although Richarlison was already halfway down. If Moise Keen would have scored at 4-3 would also have been closer.

We could have had a few more in the end, but at certain points tonight, if decisions would have gone against us you could have been drawing or even closer.

But FOR MANE BEING TOO HONEST, we could have had a penalty also. It just shows that we cant trust refs to give pens unless you go down. ;)
 
TBF that could have been a 9-7 game and a lot closer if decisions hadn't gone in our favour.

Even at the match (and corroborated on MOTD) I thought VVD fouled Calvert-Lewin, and for one of our other goals thought VVD pushed Richarlison in the box on the lead up, although Richarlison was already halfway down. If Moise Keen would have scored at 4-3 would also have been closer.

We could have had a few more in the end, but at certain points tonight, if decisions would have gone against us you could have been drawing or even closer.

But FOR MANE BEING TOO HONEST, we could have had a penalty also. It just shows that we cant trust refs to give pens unless you go down. ;)
We didn’t deserve it though Pete, your football, especially in the 1st half, was a different level, the 2nd half you didn’t really try, controlled dominant football.
Sometimes you have to put rivalry aside and just accept how completely lacking in so many ways we were to yous, I was there the last time you hit us for 5 when Rush got 4 and I know it’ll sound daft, but I genuinely don’t think I’ve seen such a gulf in class and ability between the 2 sides as I did tonight.
 
We didn’t deserve it though Pete, your football, especially in the 1st half, was a different level, the 2nd half you didn’t really try, controlled dominant football.
Sometimes you have to put rivalry aside and just accept how completely lacking in so many ways we were to yous, I was there the last time you hit us for 5 when Rush got 4 and I know it’ll sound daft, but I genuinely don’t think I’ve seen such a gulf in class and ability between the 2 sides as I did tonight.

Tell my nails that.

I'll be honest if you would have had them 2 penalties it could have been a totally different game, one was stonewall, the other a slightly debatable one but it also would have stopped our 3rd counting so was a massive decision.

That 5-0 with Rush scoring 4 was my first ever derby. :D
 
Tell my nails that.

I'll be honest if you would have had them 2 penalties it could have been a totally different game, one was stonewall, the other a slightly debatable one but it also would have stopped our 3rd counting so was a massive decision.

That 5-0 with Rush scoring 4 was my first ever derby. :D

Adrian would’ve saved both of them anyway......

Everton are lacking in real quality, massive job for whoever is daft enough to take it.
 
Tell my nails that.

I'll be honest if you would have had them 2 penalties it could have been a totally different game, one was stonewall, the other a slightly debatable one but it also would have stopped our 3rd counting so was a massive decision.

That 5-0 with Rush scoring 4 was my first ever derby. :D
Think the VVD one was a pen.
There was to much pushing and pulling in the boxes at corners and free kicks so the ref usually gives nothing.
Some quite nasty stuff going on TAA could have seen red twice.
Absolute brilliant going forward but we have issues at the back.
Origi and Mane were fantastic tonight.

The high line for free kicks is causing us problems imo, it’s very hard to head a ball any distance while backpedaling.
Offside isn’t given now as the only one who needs to be onside is the man receiving the ball.
Decisions went our way ,but we deserved to win.

Made me laugh when Mane runs past Mike Dean for his goal Dean looked like he was running in treacle the speed Mane was going.
 
Think the VVD one was a pen.
There was to much pushing and pulling in the boxes at corners and free kicks so the ref usually gives nothing.
Some quite nasty stuff going on TAA could have seen red twice.
Absolute brilliant going forward but we have issues at the back.
Origi and Mane were fantastic tonight.

The high line for free kicks is causing us problems imo, it’s very hard to head a ball any distance while backpedaling.
Offside isn’t given now as the only one who needs to be onside is the man receiving the ball.
Decisions went our way ,but we deserved to win.

Made me laugh when Mane runs past Mike Dean for his goal Dean looked like he was running in treacle the speed Mane was going.

Lovren at fault for both goals and Adrian should’ve done better for the 1st.
 
Lovren at fault for both goals and Adrian should’ve done better for the 1st.
The marking from CBs wasn’t great today especially the second .
The first was a few lucky bounces but thought Keane finished it really well for a defender.
Some strikers should watch it .

I just think the high line has us backpedaling to much.
And if they get behind us the marking just goes out the window.
We have been done by a few long balls over the top last few games,

But if we score more than them that will do.
Wonder if Salah will get back in the team?
Our bench was awesome today as well.
 
So clear that Everton were outclassed in all areas. Silva going and apparently Moyes lined up. Not sure that's the answer personally. Can't see bridging the gap even if Liverpool slip up and time the two sides meet in April I can't see the outcome affecting the title race
 
The marking from CBs wasn’t great today especially the second .
The first was a few lucky bounces but thought Keane finished it really well for a defender.
Some strikers should watch it .

I just think the high line has us backpedaling to much.
And if they get behind us the marking just goes out the window.
We have been done by a few long balls over the top last few games,

But if we score more than them that will do.
Wonder if Salah will get back in the team?
Our bench was awesome today as well.

Lovren went to ground too easy for the 1st and didnt know whether to head or kick the ball to stop the cross for the 2nd.

Apart from those too silly errors he played well again, and has been excellent in recent weeks.
 
So clear that Everton were outclassed in all areas. Silva going and apparently Moyes lined up. Not sure that's the answer personally. Can't see bridging the gap even if Liverpool slip up and time the two sides meet in April I can't see the outcome affecting the title race

I hope so ??
 
Utterly, utterly embarrassing, given a total footballing lesson, how to pass, how to create space, how to close down, tackle back, work as a team etc etc, 8 or 9 nil would of been more of a true reflection.
Outplayed in every single aspect.

Sums it up pretty well. Never seen a defence taken completely out of the game that many times in one game with long diagonal balls, embarrassing defending. Got a couple of goals but didn't deserve them, just rubbish defending from Liverpool. Awful performance from start to finish and completely outclassed. Has to be the end for Marco now, will be very disappointed if we don't ship him out. We need a new manager in for December so they can get familiar with the squad and work with Brands to identify where we need to improve.

Have heard Gallardo's name mentioned a few times which would be nice, certainly a better option than Moyes, don't think there are many who'd want him back. Gallardo is one of the most successful South American managers, the most successful in River Plates history, 10 trophies at River, 2 Copa Libertadores. Probably unlikely that we'll get him, but would be a very nice appointment if Marcel can work his magic.
 
See reports this morning suggesting Viera favourite for becoming next Arsenal Manager... please let this be wrong, legend as a player but not what we need as manager his only experience being keeping Nice firmly in the bottom have of French Ligue 1
 
Sums it up pretty well. Never seen a defence taken completely out of the game that many times in one game with long diagonal balls, embarrassing defending. Got a couple of goals but didn't deserve them, just rubbish defending from Liverpool. Awful performance from start to finish and completely outclassed. Has to be the end for Marco now, will be very disappointed if we don't ship him out. We need a new manager in for December so they can get familiar with the squad and work with Brands to identify where we need to improve.

Have heard Gallardo's name mentioned a few times which would be nice, certainly a better option than Moyes, don't think there are many who'd want him back. Gallardo is one of the most successful South American managers, the most successful in River Plates history, 10 trophies at River, 2 Copa Libertadores. Probably unlikely that we'll get him, but would be a very nice appointment if Marcel can work his magic.

What’s wrong with having Moyes back ?

He has been your best manager in the last twenty years , he gave the club stability and reaching the expected level . You have tried the more flamboyant managers and have suffered - when Allardyce came in he was excellent for you , got the team to 8th in the league, that wasn’t good enough for fans - you demanded he leave and Silva to come in , 12 months later , Silva to go now and calls of “not Moyes”

Moyes and indeed Allardyce would be a good fit for Everton , would give the club stability , solid league position and something build on.

Right now what is happening is a victim of the fans demands
 
What’s wrong with having Moyes back ?

He has been your best manager in the last twenty years , he gave the club stability and reaching the expected level . You have tried the more flamboyant managers and have suffered - when Allardyce came in he was excellent for you , got the team to 8th in the league, that wasn’t good enough for fans - you demanded he leave and Silva to come in , 12 months later , Silva to go now and calls of “not Moyes”

Moyes and indeed Allardyce would be a good fit for Everton , would give the club stability , solid league position and something build on.

Right now what is happening is a victim of the fans demands


Maybe a Moyes/Allardyce joint managership?

Behave, Everton fans have a right to not want Allardyce back. League position is important, but not totally at the expense of paying for a season ticket to watch dull, unattractive football week in, week out.

I'm sure Stoke fans would be split on having Tony Pulis back, for instance.
 
What’s wrong with having Moyes back ?

He has been your best manager in the last twenty years , he gave the club stability and reaching the expected level . You have tried the more flamboyant managers and have suffered - when Allardyce came in he was excellent for you , got the team to 8th in the league, that wasn’t good enough for fans - you demanded he leave and Silva to come in , 12 months later , Silva to go now and calls of “not Moyes”

Moyes and indeed Allardyce would be a good fit for Everton , would give the club stability , solid league position and something build on.

Right now what is happening is a victim of the fans demands

Has going back to an old manager ever worked? Look what happened at Watford going back to Sanchez Flores. Moyes had a great time at Everton but hasn't exactly impressed since, I think going back to him would be a backwards step and would rather we move forward. Would rather him than Fat Sam though.

It's also easy for you to say they're a good fit, you don't have to watch the football every week.
 
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