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Premier League 2019-2020 we’re off

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Dan2501 said:
I think with a decent manager with a bit of tactical nous this squad could be successful. I look at a core squad of Pickford, Coleman, Keane, Digne, Gomes, Delph, Sigurdsson, Richarlison and Kean as more than strong enough to be competing for the top 5 but Silva's complete lack of defensive organisation or creativity tactically is really holding us back. With the right manager this squad could become very good especially with the right moves over the next couple of transfer windows. Unfortunately, Silva isn't the man and we need to make that decision now before things get worse, and then take time to find the right man for the job. There's no point going for another stop-gap manager for 4 months before returning us to square one in the summer. Brands and the board need to take some time and get the right man in who fits the mould of what they're trying to do and is capable of getting the most out of this talented squad, that man is not David Moyes.
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You really think top 5 ?

Are you maybe overplaying how good those players actually are ?

Most of those seem “decent” mid table players not players at the top end of the table - how many would get into the teams in the top 5 ? Maybe Richarlison as a squad player.

That to me is the issue - the club have spent a lot of money on mid table level players and expect those players to challenge the likes of Spurs , Chelsea etc on a regular basis.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
The one thing that was clear last night was that we need a better structure, better organisation. Basketball tactics are not the way forward. No, that doesn't mean a return to Sam but I would take Moyes for the rest of the season as he is capable of organising a team. That buys the club time to get the right person in going forwards in the summer.
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Originally when I saw our team, I thought "hello", not just because of number of changes, but also both Lallana and Shaq coming in in a derby after a few months out and fitness being a concern. Ok, we could take them off after 60 mins when the game is less frenetic, but who knows what may have happened by then (red cards, injuries to others etc). I dont think I was alone to all I spoke to before the match, but Jurgen sees them train, so he has that.

Back 3/5's have seen us struggle this year, but also still see us triumph, so when Everton lined up that way thought we may struggle for the first half - couldnt be more wrong. To me the mad thing was them playing a back 5 in a line and also pushed up to near enough the half way line - madness. Nearly all of our goals or good chances either seen us hit a long pass over the top or somewhere in behind. I know you went to a back four after Sidibe went off, but you still fell for the ball in behind.
 
Liverbirdie said:
Originally when I saw our team, I thought "hello", not just because of number of changes, but also both Lallana and Shaq coming in in a derby after a few months out and fitness being a concern. Ok, we could take them off after 60 mins when the game is less frenetic, but who knows what may have happened by then (red cards, injuries to others etc). I dont think I was alone to all I spoke to before the match, but Jurgen sees them train, so he has that.

Back 3/5's have seen us struggle this year, but also still see us triumph, so when Everton lined up that way thought we may struggle for the first half - couldnt be more wrong. To me the mad thing was them playing a back 5 in a line and also pushed up to near enough the half way line - madness. Nearly all of our goals or good chances either seen us hit a long pass over the top or somewhere in behind. I know you went to a back four after Sidibe went off, but you still fell for the ball in behind.
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Spot on, could of lived with one error, ie, the first goal but continue with it for as long as they did was embarrassing.
 
Liverbirdie said:
Originally when I saw our team, I thought "hello", not just because of number of changes, but also both Lallana and Shaq coming in in a derby after a few months out and fitness being a concern. Ok, we could take them off after 60 mins when the game is less frenetic, but who knows what may have happened by then (red cards, injuries to others etc). I dont think I was alone to all I spoke to before the match, but Jurgen sees them train, so he has that.

Back 3/5's have seen us struggle this year, but also still see us triumph, so when Everton lined up that way thought we may struggle for the first half - couldnt be more wrong. To me the mad thing was them playing a back 5 in a line and also pushed up to near enough the half way line - madness. Nearly all of our goals or good chances either seen us hit a long pass over the top or somewhere in behind. I know you went to a back four after Sidibe went off, but you still fell for the ball in behind.
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There was a little bit of that in the Leicester game as well. Silva had the guts to change the system before half time, hooking Sidibe off, but it was clear within the first few attacks that the long ball was opening us up and we were on the back foot by too much by the time it was changed. How basic is that? Why play so high against an attack with pace?

We left Davies so alone in the centre as well. I'm not sure Silva has realised that Gomes isn't on the pitch still. Poor old Tom had to look after everyone on his own.
 
I've just seen Dele's goal from last night, that was outrageous. Old school Dele that was. He's back! Literally all it took was playing him nearer the goal like the fans said all along. I wonder why Poch stopped trying that?

People said Jose would park the bus - maybe he should be! Conceded 2 goals in each of his games so far. It doesn't help that we've had to have our second choice keeper in though of course. We could really use a new centre back next month, especially if Toby and Jan are soon to be on their travels.
 
Great result for United, just what Ole needed.
McDominate is turning into a real player and Rashford looked like he was enjoying himself, too.
Fred had one of his better games and, wait for it, Ashley Young played quite well and didn't get booked!
I'm not sure we've turned a corner, but we're definitely indicating.
 
Just read this and made me smile:

Oumar Niasse is set to outlast a fourth Everton manager.

This tiny fact neatly sums up why the football club is a complete shambles.

:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
Liverbirdie said:
Originally when I saw our team, I thought "hello", not just because of number of changes, but also both Lallana and Shaq coming in in a derby after a few months out and fitness being a concern. Ok, we could take them off after 60 mins when the game is less frenetic, but who knows what may have happened by then (red cards, injuries to others etc). I dont think I was alone to all I spoke to before the match, but Jurgen sees them train, so he has that.

Back 3/5's have seen us struggle this year, but also still see us triumph, so when Everton lined up that way thought we may struggle for the first half - couldnt be more wrong. To me the mad thing was them playing a back 5 in a line and also pushed up to near enough the half way line - madness. Nearly all of our goals or good chances either seen us hit a long pass over the top or somewhere in behind. I know you went to a back four after Sidibe went off, but you still fell for the ball in behind.
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I met a few mates in the willow bank for a pre match bevy to settle the nerves and by the time I was leaving, I left with no nerves but lots of bemusement.

I thought Klopp had been to the Formby bowling club Christmas party on tuesday night and had woke up with a stinking hangover and a mad plan ?
 
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