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[Deleted member 16999]

What’s wrong with having Moyes back ?

He has been your best manager in the last twenty years , he gave the club stability and reaching the expected level . You have tried the more flamboyant managers and have suffered - when Allardyce came in he was excellent for you , got the team to 8th in the league, that wasn’t good enough for fans - you demanded he leave and Silva to come in , 12 months later , Silva to go now and calls of “not Moyes”

Moyes and indeed Allardyce would be a good fit for Everton , would give the club stability , solid league position and something build on.

Right now what is happening is a victim of the fans demands

Silva finished in the same position as Allardyce and 5pts better off.

As others have said it’s not always just the position we finish in, there needs to be progression, the allardyce football was the worst I’ve seen from an Everton side since the 70’s.

We had a great finish to last season, Silva was allowed to spend (big) and look how we are doing. We haven’t moved forward, players are useless (see the defence last night).

Next manager, right now I really don’t care, there is clearly something wrong with the team, unfortunately the manager (as in all clubs) is the fall guy.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

“Imagine Moyes with money, lad” was a favourite blooo saying in 2000’s.

Didn’t Moyes also say he was a Striker away from regular CL football??

I can’t wait for Moyes to comeback ??

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Didn't work for Dalglish 2nd time around. Had a very good win percentage of 60.9% from May 95-Feb 91 (307 games) and that had then dropped to 47.3% from Jan 11-May 12 (74 games) and only a league cup success. I use that merely as an example how a VERY GOOD manager can go back and not recreate the magiv. I am wary about any manager at any club going back. I don't think Moyes will repeat his success, certainly with the current resources and howl long does he get to rebuild (how long do any managers get these days?) and how does he attract the right players in?

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Didn't work for Dalglish 2nd time around. Had a very good win percentage of 60.9% from May 95-Feb 91 (307 games) and that had then dropped to 47.3% from Jan 11-May 12 (74 games) and only a league cup success. I use that merely as an example how a VERY GOOD manager can go back and not recreate the magiv. I am wary about any manager at any club going back. I don't think Moyes will repeat his success, certainly with the current resources and howl long does he get to rebuild (how long do any managers get these days?) and how does he attract the right players in?

What success? He won nothing!

 

[Deleted member 1740]

What’s wrong with having Moyes back ?

He has been your best manager in the last twenty years , he gave the club stability and reaching the expected level . You have tried the more flamboyant managers and have suffered - when Allardyce came in he was excellent for you , got the team to 8th in the league, that wasn’t good enough for fans - you demanded he leave and Silva to come in , 12 months later , Silva to go now and calls of “not Moyes”

Moyes and indeed Allardyce would be a good fit for Everton , would give the club stability , solid league position and something build on.

Right now what is happening is a victim of the fans demands

Nothing, absolutely nothing.

Nearly right with the last sentence. From my local experience and dealing with them on a daily basis, there demise is fuelled by our success. They’re in the shadows of Unberable FC/Devils Club and they want to be on that level but just aren’t patient enough as a fan base.

Also the club has been mismanaged at board level for many many years with very little funding. Since Moshiri has came in with his laundered dosh, they’ve expected to compete but instead pissed it up the wall spending huge money on overrated shite aswell as appointing wrong managers.

Anyway, Merry Xmas Everton.......

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Nothing, absolutely nothing.

Nearly right with the last sentence. From my local experience and dealing with them on a daily basis, there demise is fuelled by our success. They’re in the shadows of Unberable FC/Devils Club and they want to be on that level but just aren’t patient enough as a fan base.

Also the club has been mismanaged at board level for many many years with very little funding. Since Moshiri has came in with his laundered dosh, they’ve expected to compete but instead pissed it up the wall spending huge money on overrated shite aswell as appointing wrong managers.

Anyway, Merry Xmas Everton.......

You’re contradicting yourself? Surely our frustration is well borne out or the managers and wasted money is wrong!

Can’t be both surely! Which manager do you believe we should of given more time to?

 

[Papas1982]

Didn't work for Dalglish 2nd time around. Had a very good win percentage of 60.9% from May 95-Feb 91 (307 games) and that had then dropped to 47.3% from Jan 11-May 12 (74 games) and only a league cup success. I use that merely as an example how a VERY GOOD manager can go back and not recreate the magiv. I am wary about any manager at any club going back. I don't think Moyes will repeat his success, certainly with the current resources and howl long does he get to rebuild (how long do any managers get these days?) and how does he attract the right players in?

Not sure what Dalglish proves tbh.

He took over the first time when they were the dominant team in England. The second time they were mid table. His record would obviously be worse that time round.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Not sure what Dalglish proves tbh.

He took over the first time when they were the dominant team in England. The second time they were mid table. His record would obviously be worse that time round.

He won a trophy with a very average squad.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

You’re contradicting yourself? Surely our frustration is well borne out or the managers and wasted money is wrong!

Can’t be both surely! Which manager do you believe we should of given more time to?

No I'm not. It's a combination of everything I said. ?

Koeman and Allardyce ?

Everton fans have an expectation and rightly so given their previous history, though I think there set a little bit too high based on the last 30 years.

The pressure and expectation is possibly weighing too heavy on the squad/management imo.

This next management appointment HAS to be right. Moyes,Howe,Dyche etc arent what you need.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

David Moyes with Tim Cahill as assistant. The Dream Team.

Yep, you heard it here first.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

“Imagine Moyes with money, lad” was a favourite blooo saying in 2000’s.

Didn’t Moyes also say he was a Striker away from regular CL football??

I can’t wait for Moyes to comeback ??

It was winning the league ???????

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...e-could-have-won-the-premier-league-if-he-ha/

 

[Deleted member 16999]

No I'm not. It's a combination of everything I said. ?

Koeman and Allardyce ?

Everton fans have an expectation and rightly so given their previous history, though I think there set a little bit too high based on the last 30 years.

The pressure and expectation is possibly weighing too heavy on the squad/management imo.

This next management appointment HAS to be right. Moyes,Howe,Dyche etc arent what you need.

Fans frustration has come from the fact we hear “we’ve got our man” “he’s got top players” etc, then it turns out the manager or players are shite and money is wasted, hence frustration.
We’ll get behind anyone taking us forward or can take a team and show us they have a plan, all we have seen is 9-10 games forward and 20 back.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

David Moyes with Tim Cahill as assistant. The Dream Team.

Yep, you heard it here first.

Yer know that mismanagement I mentioned........

 

[Deleted member 1740]

David Moyes with Tim Cahill as assistant. The Dream Team.

Yep, you heard it here first.

I really hope it's true ?

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Fans frustration has come from the fact we hear “we’ve got our man” “he’s got top players” etc, then it turns out the manager or players are shite and money is wasted, hence frustration.
We’ll get behind anyone taking us forward or can take a team and show us they have a plan, all we have seen is 9-10 games forward and 20 back.

That happens with most teams, look at Arsenal and Yernited. Only difference is they've got more slightly better players.

You're on yer 2nd DOF in 4 seasons, mismanagement....

The board need a clear plan and stick with it.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

That happens with most teams, look at Arsenal and Yernited. Only difference is they've got more slightly better players.

You're on yer 2nd DOF in 4 seasons, mismanagement....

The board need a clear plan and stick with it.

Agreed, so again, it’s understandible why fans are so frustrated.
We are frustrated with all aspects of the Club.

 

[Dan2501]

I think with a decent manager with a bit of tactical nous this squad could be successful. I look at a core squad of Pickford, Coleman, Keane, Digne, Gomes, Delph, Sigurdsson, Richarlison and Kean as more than strong enough to be competing for the top 5 but Silva's complete lack of defensive organisation or creativity tactically is really holding us back. With the right manager this squad could become very good especially with the right moves over the next couple of transfer windows. Unfortunately, Silva isn't the man and we need to make that decision now before things get worse, and then take time to find the right man for the job. There's no point going for another stop-gap manager for 4 months before returning us to square one in the summer. Brands and the board need to take some time and get the right man in who fits the mould of what they're trying to do and is capable of getting the most out of this talented squad, that man is not David Moyes.

 

[Papas1982]

He won a trophy with a very average squad.

Exactly. Kinda dispells he did worse. If anything he exceeding realistic expectations.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I think with a decent manager with a bit of tactical nous this squad could be successful. I look at a core squad of Pickford, Coleman, Keane, Digne, Gomes, Delph, Sigurdsson, Richarlison and Kean as more than strong enough to be competing for the top 5 but Silva's complete lack of defensive organisation or creativity tactically is really holding us back. With the right manager this squad could become very good especially with the right moves over the next couple of transfer windows. Unfortunately, Silva isn't the man and we need to make that decision now before things get worse, and then take time to find the right man for the job. There's no point going for another stop-gap manager for 4 months before returning us to square one in the summer. Brands and the board need to take some time and get the right man in who fits the mould of what they're trying to do and is capable of getting the most out of this talented squad, that man is not David Moyes.

It is, prepare yourself.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

The one thing that was clear last night was that we need a better structure, better organisation. Basketball tactics are not the way forward. No, that doesn't mean a return to Sam but I would take Moyes for the rest of the season as he is capable of organising a team. That buys the club time to get the right person in going forwards in the summer.