Premier League 2019-2020 we’re off

[Bazz]

Just use the pitch side monitors ffs.

 

[Orikoru]

Just use the pitch side monitors ffs.

They should do. I don't even think we need the idiots sitting in Stockley Park watching it, they're not refereeing the game so they don't have the correct context for incidents. The ref should decide if he didn't have a clear view, then jog over to the screen at the side of the pitch where it will be shown to him from a better angle. Then he makes the decision from that, shouldn't take more than a minute. This goes for offsides as well - stop fannying about drawing lines all over it and working out where people's shoulders and armpits are - just let the ref have a look from the correct angle and he can say if they're level or not. I don't know why it has been overcomplicated to such a stupid degree.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Sorry Phil, but Silva’s handball was accidental, the question over TAA is whether it was intentional, I get it’s frustrating but I’ve not seen anywhere or anyone question whether Silva’s handball was intentional as well.

And without making this about us, wasn’t Gomes broken leg a result of Son making no attempt to play the ball, in that case I was told accidents happen and both were unrelated.

For me the ball hits their hands in the same way - Silvas arm was out and maybe a bit closer but even if accidental it’s made an impact on the way the play went.

If City has scored from that handball then it would have been cancelled , so should the penalty have been given when they have gained an advantage from the handball ?

I really think they got the right call

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Can't understand the point of this debate.

Should it have been a penalty?
Definitely IMO

Would Man City have scored from the penalty?
Probably

Would the final result have been different in that case?
With City's defence and lack of pressing, not a hope in hell. Liverpool would still
have won as they had far too much pace for City to be able to deal with.

Should we scrap VAR?
Definitely, after all it has failed as there are still controversial and disputed decisions
just as previously.
Some decisions, such as ball in or out of play and goal line calls are objective but others, including offside since it requires judgement of precisely when the ball was played, are not.
There will always be good and bad decisions just as players will have good and bad moments.

 

[Fish]

Did you know both Liverpool and Everton haven’t beaten any team above them in the league.

This is because it’s impossible for Liverpool to beat a team above them as they are top of the league and it’s impossible for Everton to beat a team above them because they are shite 😜

 

[Liverbirdie]

BTW, wasn't there a situation in the 2nd half when a City players boot was head height with Mane (and close) and the ref waved play on, or am I imagining it?

 

[Deleted member 18588]

BTW, wasn't there a situation in the 2nd half when a City players boot was head height with Mane (and close) and the ref waved play on, or am I imagining it?

There was also a challenge by Mane on a City player the equivalent of Son's on Gomes but fortunately without the same outcome.

Fans will always see what they want to see.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Did you know both Liverpool and Everton haven’t beaten any team above them in the league.

This is because it’s impossible for Liverpool to beat a team above them as they are top of the league and it’s impossible for Everton to beat a team above them because they are shite 😜

Fragger, some red has hacked Fish's account .

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Did you know both Liverpool and Everton haven’t beaten any team above them in the league.

This is because it’s impossible for Liverpool to beat a team above them as they are top of the league and it’s impossible for Everton to beat a team above them because they are shite 😜

Wolves are 8th, great joke though.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

For me the ball hits their hands in the same way - Silvas arm was out and maybe a bit closer but even if accidental it’s made an impact on the way the play went.

If City has scored from that handball then it would have been cancelled , so should the penalty have been given when they have gained an advantage from the handball ?

I really think they got the right call

The decision going either way would of been controversial without Fabinho scoring, I think it’s stood out more because of that. Neither manager would of been happy.

Was very much in favour of VAR, hate it the way it’s currently being used.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

The decision going either way would of been controversial without Fabinho scoring, I think it’s stood out more because of that. Neither manager would of been happy.

Was very much in favour of VAR, hate it the way it’s currently being used.

I was always against VAR but it seemed to do well in the World Cup during the summer and in the CL - but it’s being horrific for the Prem and it’s down to implementation and just look who is in charge of it - one of the worst refs in Prem history

In other news - seems we might be looking to get Fraser from Bournemouth during Jan - good signing

 

[Slime]

VAR : Vague and Ridiculous.

 

[sawtooth]

For me the ball hits their hands in the same way - Silvas arm was out and maybe a bit closer but even if accidental it’s made an impact on the way the play went.

If City has scored from that handball then it would have been cancelled , so should the penalty have been given when they have gained an advantage from the handball ?

I really think they got the right call

Of course you would say that.

I think it was a stonewall penalty, TAA would have been aware of Sterling behind him and he moves his arm toward the ball clear as day.

 

[Dando]

Of course you would say that.

I think it was a stonewall penalty, TAA would have been aware of Sterling behind him and he moves his arm toward the ball clear as day.

😂🤣😂🤣😂

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Of course you would say that.

I think it was a stonewall penalty, TAA would have been aware of Sterling behind him and he moves his arm toward the ball clear as day.

Are you ready to take the bet ? I see you didn’t answer when you said it was foolish to write off Arsenal in top 4

Oh and other non Liverpool people have also agreed that it wasn’t a penalty including crucially - the ref , the VAR ref , and a couple of other refs.

 

[sawtooth]

VAR panel won’t overrule on pitch ref. 89 out of 90 penalty decisions went with on pitch ref this year so that says it all.

Either we have the most amazing refs or VAR just agrees with the subjectivity of on pitch decisions.

Some refs would easily have blown for a pen yesterday it’s just one of those that could have gone any way.

 

[sawtooth]

Are you ready to take the bet ? I see you didn’t answer when you said it was foolish to write off Arsenal in top 4

Oh and other non Liverpool people have also agreed that it wasn’t a penalty including crucially - the ref , the VAR ref , and a couple of other refs.

I would get 5/1 with the bookies, evens is not great value tbf.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I would get 5/1 with the bookies, evens is not great value tbf.

It’s not about value it’s about the charity - if Arsenal get top 4 I’ll give £20 to H4H , if they don’t you do
Remember you implied i would be on drugs to write them off from top 4

 

[Deleted member 1740]

There wasnt this fuss about handball last week when the Villa defender pulled off a great save, in fact it was barely mentioned.

Anyway thank god for international week 🙄

 

[Deleted member 16999]

VAR panel won’t overrule on pitch ref. 89 out of 90 penalty decisions went with on pitch ref this year so that says it all.

Either we have the most amazing refs or VAR just agrees with the subjectivity of on pitch decisions.

Some refs would easily have blown for a pen yesterday it’s just one of those that could have gone any way.

Obviously not stonewall then.