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Premier League 2019-2020 we’re off

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sawtooth said:
January is going to be a big window and Arsenal career defining for him.
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You won't get anything of note in January, bar the odd quick fix. When was the last time you made a decent signing? Sanchez back in 2013? And I mean decent in terms of a world class signing that delivered for a number of years? Auba is fine against fodder but away against the top sides he goes missing and ditto at home, minus the odd penalty.

This is your level, Arsenal aren't a Top 4 team and won't be until theres changes at the very top.
Liverpool and City are untouchable and will be for a number of years.
Spurs have a better squad, manager, more money and ambition.
Chelsea are progressing nicely and will surely buy big when the ban is over to add the basis of a good young side.
Leicester have a better manager, side, similar spending power and more ambition.
Man Utd are a total mess but at least have vast spending power, ambition and will at worse be Top 4 in a few years.

What do Arsenal stand for these days? A load of weak minded posers who play some pretty football but go missing whenever they play a better side or one that outworks them? Last night was embarassing. The attitude of the midfield and attack when Arsenal gave the ball away - no fight, chasing back - just let Leicester destroy them on the counter, then play quick football around the defence. It was men v boys.
 
sawtooth said:
The way I see it is that Emery is still finding his way, trying to get a team and formation together that works with what he has at his disposal. Hampered a bit by players that he hasn’t been able to select for various reasons. Also I expect him to bring in more of his “own” players in time and that will also be a massive help to him.

With all that in mind I expect that sooner rather than later his team will click and we will see an upturn in performances and results.

If we finish this season strong with very positive signs that we are heading in the right direction then we must keep Emery regardless if we just miss out on top 4 or even the Europa league.

January is going to be a big window and Arsenal career defining for him.
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He has had 18 months to do that already and the club has either gone backwards or stood still -give him too much more time and mid table will be the result. You can’t wait too long now in football
 
4LEX said:
You won't get anything of note in January, bar the odd quick fix. When was the last time you made a decent signing? Sanchez back in 2013? And I mean decent in terms of a world class signing that delivered for a number of years? Auba is fine against fodder but away against the top sides he goes missing and ditto at home, minus the odd penalty.

This is your level, Arsenal aren't a Top 4 team and won't be until theres changes at the very top.
Liverpool and City are untouchable and will be for a number of years.
Spurs have a better squad, manager, more money and ambition.
Chelsea are progressing nicely and will surely buy big when the ban is over to add the basis of a good young side.
Leicester have a better manager, side, similar spending power and more ambition.
Man Utd are a total mess but at least have vast spending power, ambition and will at worse be Top 4 in a few years.

What do Arsenal stand for these days? A load of weak minded posers who play some pretty football but go missing whenever they play a better side or one that outworks them? Last night was embarassing. The attitude of the midfield and attack when Arsenal gave the ball away - no fight, chasing back - just let Leicester destroy them on the counter, then play quick football around the defence. It was men v boys.
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It’s also about getting unsettled or unhelpful players out of the club. A chance for Emery to make a statement about who is boss and what he wants and doesn’t want.

There could also be some prearranged moves that we are not privvy to.

Leicester are a good side if you hadn’t noticed , 3rd in league against some very big spenders. City have spent £1Bn assembling that squad and Liverpool have made very heavy investments too as they are desperate to win the PL.

So to lose away to Leicester is no disgrace at this point in Emery’s tenure. I would not be saying this again in another 18mths though, I expect a marked and steady improvement in the second 18mths.

Bellerin and Holding made us stronger yesterday. Yes they made some individual errors but they are fresh back from nasty injuries and long lay offs. If they can stay fit and get a long run in the side it will be a good for Arsenal.

A fit Pepe and Tierney will strengthen us furthermore.

Emery hasnt has the best of starts but he doesn’t become a bad manager overnight, I have faith and I think the board will have too.

The end of the Wenger era and transition to new manager was a mess but was somewhat due to fan pressure. I think Arsenal will want to avoid a repeat.
 
sawtooth said:
It’s also about getting unsettled or unhelpful players out of the club. A chance for Emery to make a statement about who is boss and what he wants and doesn’t want.

There could also be some prearranged moves that we are not privvy to.

Leicester are a good side if you hadn’t noticed , 3rd in league against some very big spenders. City have spent £1Bn assembling that squad and Liverpool have made very heavy investments too as they are desperate to win the PL.

So to lose away to Leicester is no disgrace at this point in Emery’s tenure. I would not be saying this again in another 18mths though, I expect a marked and steady improvement in the second 18mths.

Bellerin and Holding made us stronger yesterday. Yes they made some individual errors but they are fresh back from nasty injuries and long lay offs. If they can stay fit and get a long run in the side it will be a good for Arsenal.

A fit Pepe and Tierney will strengthen us furthermore.

Emery hasnt has the best of starts but he doesn’t become a bad manager overnight, I have faith and I think the board will have too.

The end of the Wenger era and transition to new manager was a mess but was somewhat due to fan pressure. I think Arsenal will want to avoid a repeat.
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Or the truth is he just isn’t that great a manager
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Or the truth is he just isn’t that great a manager
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Or the truth is Wenger left a pish poor squad in favour of protecting his ego?

I've seen it 1st hand at Liverpool over the last 20 odd years.

Ferguson also left a poor squad at Yernited, its took 4 managers and over £500m to try and sort it out.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
Silva said on motd that he had spoken to him about it so hopefully he has learnt his lesson. He was dreadful for it last Sunday, it made him anaemic on the pitch.
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He should of had a penalty last week and also as Silva said, he’s never been booked for diving.
Next week the focus will be on someone else as we all know, every team has players that opposition fans believe dive every time.
 
Stuart_C said:
Or the truth is Wenger left a pish poor squad in favour of protecting his ego?

I've seen it 1st hand at Liverpool over the last 20 odd years.

Ferguson also left a poor squad at Yernited, its took 4 managers and over £500m to try and sort it out.
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I doubt he left a “pish poor” squad, he only missed out on top 4 twice in 20 years.

And with 3 PL titles to his name, ask the Liverpool board how difficult it is to win just one lol.
 
sawtooth said:
I doubt he left a “pish poor” squad, he only missed out on top 4 twice in 20 years.

And with 3 PL titles to his name, ask the Liverpool board how difficult it is to win just one lol.
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If the squad was as good as you suggest he wouldnt have missed out on top 4.

Shame you've resorted to petty remarks/ point scoring to try and justify Wengers failings.
 
Massive game today for the Klopp Express. I expect to see Citys big guns in with the exception of Laporte, Ederson will start today despite all the reports he's out.

Hopefully the games not ruined by inept refereeing/VAR.
 
pauldj42 said:
He should of had a penalty last week and also as Silva said, he’s never been booked for diving.
Next week the focus will be on someone else as we all know, every team has players that opposition fans believe dive every time.
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He hasn't but I'm not quite sure how. If he stands up more he is more likely to get penalties imo. At the moment refs know he goes too easily so are reluctant to give them. A few more games like yesterday and he will bury that reputation.
 
Stuart_C said:
Massive game today for the Klopp Express. I expect to see Citys big guns in with the exception of Laporte, Ederson will start today despite all the reports he's out.

Hopefully the games not ruined by inept refereeing/VAR.
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I think if City absorb the first 20 minutes of pressure that Liverpool will unleash upon them, it will then settle down into a a cagey counter attack match, possibly even a damp squid as each team will be conscious of each other’s fire power, and be nervous of being caught all up front.

I’d prefer a draw or a City win, only because I think L’pool have been fortunate with some results and ground them out, which I don’t think is sustainable over the full season, especially as the fixtures start to pile up.
 
Wolves are playing some smashing football right up until they reach the penalty area at which point all confidence and decisiveness disappears. It must be very frustrating being a Wolves fan.

Edit, That is genius timing 😂😂. Took them long enough.
 
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