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Premier League 2019-2020 we’re off

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Wolf said:
The doesn't deserve any time, he's had 18 mths and still can't fathom what formation he should be playing. Leicester weren't lucky at all tonight they were far superior all over the pitch to us, the gap is increasing and way we're playing we'll be lucky to finish in a Europa spot.

There will be no shame in the board cutting losses during the Int break, and bringing in someone new to get changes made and faith in the dressing room. There are some good players in our squad that a competent coach can develop and work with, the same players under Emery look clueless and poor because they don't k ow what the manager wants because he doesn't know what he wants..
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This. There was a lack of idea and cohesion all around the team and once they went 1-0 down there seemed to be no conviction that they could get a goal back. In the end it could have been far worse and I definitely feel 18 months is more than enough time to make a mark on the team and impose your ideas and methods. Sadly it seems the players are either unable or unwilling to do so. I agree that Europa League is by no means a given next season and a position of 8th or lower on current form wouldn't be a surprise
 
I thought Gunners played ok until they scored .
Then they just seemed to accept they were beaten .
Forward we’re ok but the rest were all over the place.

Identical foul on Maddison as the pen ref blows even though he had a clear advantage.
Officials 1/10 for me .
 
If you were Brendan Rogers how many of that Arsenal XI would you want in your Leicester side? Maybe find room for Aubameyang and play 2 up top and room for a few on the bench. As that current Arsenal side sets up is such a sad reflection, as there are some decent players in there (going forward at least)
 
HomerJSimpson said:
This. There was a lack of idea and cohesion all around the team and once they went 1-0 down there seemed to be no conviction that they could get a goal back. In the end it could have been far worse and I definitely feel 18 months is more than enough time to make a mark on the team and impose your ideas and methods. Sadly it seems the players are either unable or unwilling to do so. I agree that Europa League is by no means a given next season and a position of 8th or lower on current form wouldn't be a surprise
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Agreed Homer 18mths is enough time to at least understand your squad, know your best XI and formation as a minimum.

That part in bold is key, I think a lot is they have lost the desire to play for the manager, whether that's professional or not is another matter. But reports are that players are unhappy with his tactics, his methods and don't believe he is skilled enough to get them progress. Similar has been said about his time at PSG.
 
Wolf said:
Agreed Homer 18mths is enough time to at least understand your squad, know your best XI and formation as a minimum.

That part in bold is key, I think a lot is they have lost the desire to play for the manager, whether that's professional or not is another matter. But reports are that players are unhappy with his tactics, his methods and don't believe he is skilled enough to get them progress. Similar has been said about his time at PSG.
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Whether you think it's unprofessional or even he's lost the changing room, 18 months is still plenty of time and the players simply haven't bought into it or cannot carry out his instructions. Where does that leave the club other than losing regularly and losing touch with the sides above and looking an average side. They have some good players there but they remind me of United under LVG when they simply didn't seem bothered. Are the board brave enough to curt their losses? Is now the time with the international break and give someone a chance to come in and get settled before the window opens in January
 
HomerJSimpson said:
Whether you think it's unprofessional or even he's lost the changing room, 18 months is still plenty of time and the players simply haven't bought into it or cannot carry out his instructions. Where does that leave the club other than losing regularly and losing touch with the sides above and looking an average side. They have some good players there but they remind me of United under LVG when they simply didn't seem bothered. Are the board brave enough to curt their losses? Is now the time with the international break and give someone a chance to come in and get settled before the window opens in January
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The International break is ideal time, however what we don't need is a panic replacement. Someone like Mourinho just because they're available doesn't make them the right person for the job, they need to appoint someone fresh that cane work with what we have, with the youth systems and get the players to believe in them. Much like Lamoard has done at Chelsea already.
 
Wolf said:
The International break is ideal time, however what we don't need is a panic replacement. Someone like Mourinho just because they're available doesn't make them the right person for the job, they need to appoint someone fresh that cane work with what we have, with the youth systems and get the players to believe in them. Much like Lamoard has done at Chelsea already.
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Think Lampard is doing an excellent job and agree that a Mourniho could be equally as divisive. It seems to me, that he has gone as far as he's likely to with the team but does the board have the balls to make a change
 
The rumour going the rounds is the board haven't sacked him as they do not have a succession plan. He was a panick appointment because they were clueless last time, and 18 months on, they remain clueless.
 
Fish said:
so how much longer are you prepared to give him, and how much leeway will you accept in the position he finishes in the league? Is Europa a minimum expectancy, what if you keep dropping points and that starts to look unachievable?
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The way I see it is that Emery is still finding his way, trying to get a team and formation together that works with what he has at his disposal. Hampered a bit by players that he hasn’t been able to select for various reasons. Also I expect him to bring in more of his “own” players in time and that will also be a massive help to him.

With all that in mind I expect that sooner rather than later his team will click and we will see an upturn in performances and results.

If we finish this season strong with very positive signs that we are heading in the right direction then we must keep Emery regardless if we just miss out on top 4 or even the Europa league.

January is going to be a big window and Arsenal career defining for him.
 
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