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Premier League 2019-2020 we’re off

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Can you actually see properly through those red specs?

I’m not talking about the penalty, I’m talking about the dive Mane took on the edge of the box for the free kick. Clearly on his way down before any contact is made.
And yet you ignore the 4x2 Kane took to the face and the unpunished dive by Ericsson?
Perhaps you’re just fixated with Mane.
Just how did Arsenal do btw?
 
And yet you ignore the 4x2 Kane took to the face and the unpunished dive by Ericsson?
Perhaps you’re just fixated with Mane.
Just how did Arsenal do btw?

A disappointing draw at home but palace are doing OK and these derby games are never easy. Still positive about Emery because it’s still very early days.

I don’t want to talk about Mane but he makes himself a talking point. He’s a fantastic footballer but I just wished that he would stop his cheating antics. same goes for Kane, Lacazette, et al.

Nobody wants to see that and nobody wants a team to win points that way.
 
A disappointing draw at home but palace are doing OK and these derby games are never easy. Still positive about Emery because it’s still very early days.

I don’t want to talk about Mane but he makes himself a talking point. He’s a fantastic footballer but I just wished that he would stop his cheating antics. same goes for Kane, Lacazette, et al.

Nobody wants to see that and nobody wants a team to win points that way.
What about Glendousi rugby tackle at least Mane is a footballer.
Sorry you don’t want to talk about Mane ( just every game).
 
I can see me jumping on the bus to Stockley sometime soon... Think there's a few there in need of being reminded of their duty to the game...
Some ex players might fancy the job !
They at least know the difference in a tackle or a trip.
The Arsenal one was a 50/50 fighting for the ball.
 
Some fans were booing our club captain as he was subbed off, shameful and embarrassing behaviour.

These “fans” ought to go not Xhaka.

I agree with this. Booing and jeering your own player nevermind captain whose being subbed is unacceptable. I've never done it but I've heard it and I've always felt uncomfortable hearing it at the match.

Xhaka needs to take responsibility too, telling the crowd to f off again is a no no.

Just because you pay to go the game it doesnt allow or justify anyone booing g there own imo.
 
And yet you ignore the 4x2 Kane took to the face and the unpunished dive by Ericsson?
Perhaps you’re just fixated with Mane.
Just how did Arsenal do btw?


That was right in front of me, I can only assume the lino was too close to what was a blatant dive. It seems the English lads get away with it though.
 
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You have to be a cretin to boo, mock and ridicule your own team members as they are subbed off.

It’s ok to look at things differently though so I respect your opinion. If you are happy with that it’s fine but it’s not something I have ever done or will ever likely to do.

Gotta say ST they showed a clip of him last night on MOTD. If I had paid to watch his performance I would of been booing as well he was atrocious. As a central midfielder he was just not showing for the ball. If as a captain that is the example he is setting. Well he has reaped what he has sown. Like Wenger the Arsenal fans will be there long after he has gone. One thing fans in general do like is some one who tries. Or as they say, puts a shift in. He didn't.
 
You guys are bloody obsessed with diving now, it's bordering on insanity. Mane was fouled by Aurier for the penalty, plain as day. Kane was caught in the face by Lovren so he went down. I have no idea what incident Bunkermagnet was referring to with Eriksen, as I don't remember him even going down. It's got to the point where you guys are incensed every time anybody goes down, it's getting out of hand. Players go down sometimes when there's contact, if you can't accept that then you might as well stop watching football now as that's not going to change, and you'll just get yourselves all worked up again. :LOL:
 
Gotta say ST they showed a clip of him last night on MOTD. If I had paid to watch his performance I would of been booing as well he was atrocious. As a central midfielder he was just not showing for the ball. If as a captain that is the example he is setting. Well he has reaped what he has sown. Like Wenger the Arsenal fans will be there long after he has gone. One thing fans in general do like is some one who tries. Or as they say, puts a shift in. He didn't.
Think some people are to precious to accept that some players don't deserve praise. He didn't show he wanted the ball on so many occasions when he had space he backed himself into spaces where he took himself out of the game. Applied no effort in the rest of pitch and we're supposed to say that's ok we won't show our frustration, some fans clearly willing to accept mediocrity, and then stating a game like Palace is a hard Derby game. We're meant to be a top 4 contender to be that whether Palace are playing well or not a top team should be expecting to beat them at home. If he got booed off then he has only himself to blame and with his reaction should be stripped of the captaincy and dropped.

As for the Mane conversation on here today, Aurier kicked him in the back of the leg and he went down, that's a penalty in anyone's book. Then there's Guendouzi imo even as a fan lucky to only get a yellow for what would've been a high tackle even in Rugby
 
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Think some people are to precious to accept that some players don't dereve praise. He didn't show he wanted the ball on so many occasions when he had space he backed himself into spaces where he took himself out of the game. Applied no effort in the rest of pitch and we're supposed to say that's ok we won't show our frustration, some fans clearly willing to accept mediocrity, and then stating a game like Palace is a hard Derby game. We're meant to be a top 4 contender to be that whether Palace are playing well or not a top team should be expecting to beat them at home. If he got booed off then he has only himself to blame and with his reaction should be stripped of the captaincy and dropped.

As for the Mane conversation on here today, Aurier kicked him in the back of the leg and he went down, that's a penalty in anyone's book. Then there's Guendouzi imo even as a fan lucky to only get a yellow for what would've been a high tackle even in Rugby
Looked to me like he was hiding.
He always kept a player between him and the ball so the CB could not find him.
That’s not good from the captain.
The fans reaction was OTT but they pay their money they are entitled to their opinion.
The manager has to sort him out, once the fans and player react like this I would think he should move on.
 
Some ex players might fancy the job !
They at least know the difference in a tackle or a trip.
The Arsenal one was a 50/50 fighting for the ball.
Which ex-players? If it is a striker then they will tell you 'you are allowed to go down after contact'? If a defender are they okay with a shirt pull as long as the shirt doesn't get ripped? When you listen to pundits after games it goes through me at times.

There will always be differences of opinions on these, frustrating though it is.
 
Which ex-players? If it is a striker then they will tell you 'you are allowed to go down after contact'? If a defender are they okay with a shirt pull as long as the shirt doesn't get ripped? When you listen to pundits after games it goes through me at times.

There will always be differences of opinions on these, frustrating though it is.
Yes agree but I find myself agreeing with the pundits more than the referee these days.
There is no perfect answer.
Maybe VAR should have
1 a referee
2 retired striker.
3 retired defender/ midfielder.

Just imagine how long that would take to sort a decision out.
It’s just not working properly atm.
 
Think some people are to precious to accept that some players don't deserve praise. He didn't show he wanted the ball on so many occasions when he had space he backed himself into spaces where he took himself out of the game. Applied no effort in the rest of pitch and we're supposed to say that's ok we won't show our frustration, some fans clearly willing to accept mediocrity, and then stating a game like Palace is a hard Derby game. We're meant to be a top 4 contender to be that whether Palace are playing well or not a top team should be expecting to beat them at home. If he got booed off then he has only himself to blame and with his reaction should be stripped of the captaincy and dropped.

As for the Mane conversation on here today, Aurier kicked him in the back of the leg and he went down, that's a penalty in anyone's book. Then there's Guendouzi imo even as a fan lucky to only get a yellow for what would've been a high tackle even in Rugby

Amazed Guendouzi didn’t get sent off for that , reminded me of the time Emlyn Hughes made his debut for Liverpool, some older Liverpool fans might correct me on this but what I can remember his father told him to do something on the pitch to stand out, so a player went past him and he just done a rugby tackle on him. 😂
 
Yes agree but I find myself agreeing with the pundits more than the referee these days.
There is no perfect answer.
Maybe VAR should have
1 a referee
2 retired striker.
3 retired defender/ midfielder.

Just imagine how long that would take to sort a decision out.
It’s just not working properly atm.
I think that makes a good deal of sense.

I have a feeling that is how the panel in rugby league works for post match decisions, ie retrospective cards. I don't think it happens on match day though.
 
Think some people are to precious to accept that some players don't deserve praise. He didn't show he wanted the ball on so many occasions when he had space he backed himself into spaces where he took himself out of the game. Applied no effort in the rest of pitch and we're supposed to say that's ok we won't show our frustration, some fans clearly willing to accept mediocrity, and then stating a game like Palace is a hard Derby game. We're meant to be a top 4 contender to be that whether Palace are playing well or not a top team should be expecting to beat them at home. If he got booed off then he has only himself to blame and with his reaction should be stripped of the captaincy and dropped.

As for the Mane conversation on here today, Aurier kicked him in the back of the leg and he went down, that's a penalty in anyone's book. Then there's Guendouzi imo even as a fan lucky to only get a yellow for what would've been a high tackle even in Rugby

deffo a penalty and re the Guendouzi foul, i thought you had signed Fernandinho for a minute. But The palace player was away, if Palace had scored. think the arsenal lot would of gone bezerk.
 
Where do you start with VAR, from the outset it has been crap. Why to god no one went to Rugby Union for there opinion is beyond me. It should been brought in for offside and penalties for say a season. Then iron out little things. like offside by a finger or hand, eh, offside with something you cannot score with. hows that right. iron it out.THe following season bring in other things like diving etc. But now VAR is looked at for every goal. It is killing the "beautiful game".
There are screens at the side of the pitch. Not one ref has used them. Why, Why are they there then.
The fans at the game are kept in the dark, why?
The referees that made mistakes last year are the same ones making the same mistakes this year with VAR, WHY?

Yesterday there was stonking game between spurs and Liverpool, hardly any posts about it. its a bloody football thread not VAR referee thread. i got up at 07.30 to watch a game. got back in at 6.00pm and all that was talked about was that shower of crap VAR
 
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