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Premier League 2019-2020 we’re off

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Papas1982 said:
Contact with the player and not the hall when attempting to win a ball is a foul. No matter how heavy the contact is. The payers reaction has zero relevance to that fact. Granted it make trick a ref if it’s an actual dive. But if the player is exaggerating to get the refs attention, it makes the foul no less of a foul.

But this is like pulling teeth, so I’ll bow out. I look forward to the grief you give arsenal players in the future for their antics.
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To be fair, its not that black and white though. Not even close.

Contact has to impede the opposing player, which is down to interpretation by the official.

Not all contact impedes, a slight nudge, tap on the foot, hand on the shoulder is all contact that doesn't necessarily impede, hence why this is a contact sport. If the opposing player then simulates and/or exaggerates the effect of contact in attempt to con the ref then they shouldn't expect the free kick.

Rightly or wrongly, Atkinson deemed Origi wasn't impeded to the extent of a foul being committed. Either way, it wasnt obvious enough to be overturned. Personally I agree, although 90%+ of the time they are given
 
TheDiablo said:
The exciting thing for you guys is that it's been 4+ just to try and get competitive. Now it's 1-2 just to add depth to a world class team

Maybe it will come in hindsight if you run out of steam, but genuinely surprised there was none to minimal criticism following no investment.
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Yep, but time will tell.

That same team has reached 2 CL finals and a record, albeit 2nd place, points total. In an earlier post you asked about Klopp's lucky injury record - the same manager that everyone jumped on the bandwagon of some trumped-up physio who said that our squad would be broken come the end of the season.

I'm not saying he's perfect, but he's outperforming all/most managers at the top with the budget he has had.
 
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sawtooth said:
Just explain one thing, why did Origi clinch his right ankle when he was quite clearly touched on the left lower leg?

Was that pain transfer or a con trick? You tell me.
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I don’t know enough about anatomy to hazard a guess.
But the foetal position is the main reflex when in pain .
Only a doctor could explain that.

So he was quite clearly kicked on the left leg from behind .Thats a foul!!

Did you notice how far away the ball was when he kicked him. It was a snide kick in the muscle of his leg very cynical for a premier league player.
 
sawtooth said:
Mate if you think Origi was honest yesterday you are either so blinded by love of Liverpool or you have never kicked a ball in your life.

He lost control of the ball felt a touch and tried to steal a free kick. Not for me.
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Why only 2 options, and why have many/most pundits said its a foul then.

You stick with your naive, self-righteous claptrap, but at least apply it across the board and not just in our direction.

I'm also anti-diving and anti-feigning, but I also dont live in some 1950's gentlemanly utopia where players will be as honest as the day is long. Since Sepp Blatter's influence on refs of "first to hit the deck" wins its a changed game. Also, if a player has his shirt pulled for 5 seconds, how many times have you seen a ref give nothing even though he has a clear view of it? For certain types of fouls only hitting the deck gets you the decision.

If you want to finish top of the fair play league, go for it, although taken on numbers of reds and yellows for last season. OO I wonder who it is.........https://www.sportbible.com/football...he-premier-league-in-201819-revealed-20190513..... Oo look its us.
 
Liverbirdie said:
Yep, but time will tell.

That same team has reached 2 CL finals and a record, albeit 2nd place, points total. In an earlier post you asked about Klopp's lucky injury record - the same manager that everyone jumped on the bandwagon of some trumped-up physio who said that our squad would be broken come the end of the season.

I'm not saying he's perfect, but he's outperforming all/most managers at the top with the budget he has had.
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I think I called his injury record 'seriously impressive' but read into that what you will 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
McGoldrick just booked for diving, utterly shameful and pathetically embarrassing.
Oh, John Fleck's got a shot or two in him.
 
Slime said:
McGoldrick just booked for diving, utterly shameful and pathetically embarrassing.
Oh, John Fleck's got a shot or two in him.
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as bad as they come that dive isnt it, anticpating what was coming and getting it wrong

time the authorities penalise such blatant cheating further for me
 
Why are Tierney and Holding still not playing?

Arsenal look very disjointed. I can't see any progress from Emery this season even if they had won and gone 3rd. They seem to be drawing too many PL games or scraping a single goal win. They aren't dominating games
 
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