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[Deleted member 1740]

Mane has gone down there too easy, I'm sure our resident Ref homer can clarify the rule, I'm thinking the pen was given because Albrighton impeded Mane who had control of the ball, as opposed to throwing himself to the ground?

Either way it makes up for the blatant one we never got last year against Leicester 😉

 

[Pin-seeker]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1180597512819724288

Seems to be every week now.
Needs to stop.

 

[sawtooth]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1180588807390842881

Blimey hope Mane is ok

100% Mane conned the ref and VAR and quite a few diehard Liverpool fans too.

Leaves his left leg behind to ensure contact then dives to the ground.

The clincher for me is that he rolls around holding his right shin! Such a cheat.

Oh but there’s contact he earnt the right to go down? No, not if he engineered the contact and not if the contact was minuscule.

 

[Liverbirdie]

Having now seen the highlights the most dangerous tackle was the one by TAA on Tielemans - nasty and deliberate. Could have caused a serious injury. Choudrey on Salah was late and from behind, but not dangerous and not anywhere near as likely to cause an injury as the challenge last week on Praet which you didn’t have a problem with.

Inverted bias, right there. TAA's tackle was a poor technique, but look at the angles and I'd say he didnt mean to do him, but he did land on his achilles and a yellow would have been right.

Choudry meant to get Mo all day long. The tackle looked worse at the match, but after seeing it on the telly would also say just a yellow.

 

[Liverbirdie]

100% Mane conned the ref and VAR and quite a few diehard Liverpool fans too.

Leaves his left leg behind to ensure contact then dives to the ground.

The clincher for me is that he rolls around holding his right shin! Such a cheat.

Oh but there’s contact he earnt the right to go down? No, not if he engineered the contact and not if the contact was minuscule.

You'd made your mind up 4 hours ago, so whats the point.........

So everything Albrighton did was a 100% legal challenge??????

 

[Pin-seeker]

100% Mane conned the ref and VAR and quite a few diehard Liverpool fans too.

Leaves his left leg behind to ensure contact then dives to the ground.

The clincher for me is that he rolls around holding his right shin! Such a cheat.

Oh but there’s contact he earnt the right to go down? No, not if he engineered the contact and not if the contact was minuscule.

Refs have got no chance when players are rolling around like like this.

 

[Pin-seeker]

You'd made your mind up 4 hours ago, so whats the point.........

So everything Albrighton did was a 100% legal challenge??????

Wind your neck in lad,obviously the media will go easy because he’s a Liverpool player 👍🏻

 

[sawtooth]

You'd made your mind up 4 hours ago, so whats the point.........

So everything Albrighton did was 10% legal challenge??????

Mane’s got form, it’s the 95th minute, it had all the hallmarks.

But I’ve seen it and I know a dive when I see one.

It’s not surprising that you, Stu and Phil can’t see anything but a legit penalty. I can see why, I get it.

 

[Pin-seeker]

Mane’s got form, it’s the 95th minute, it had all the hallmarks.

But I’ve seen it and I know a dive when I see one.

It’s not surprising that you, Stu and Phil can’t see anything but a legit penalty. I can see why, I get it.

Spot on,it’s a desperate last attempt to win the game at all costs.
Sadly it’s part of the modern game,but it’s still blatant cheating.

If anyone in a different shirt does it next week then I suspect people will change their tune 🤷‍♂️

 

[Jensen]

Lloris just had shocker there, his body wasn't set right nor were his legs.
Brighton seem to have played at a high tempo and credit to them.
Spurs are an embarrassing disgrace

 

[Liverbirdie]

Mane’s got form, it’s the 95th minute, it had all the hallmarks.

But I’ve seen it and I know a dive when I see one.

It’s not surprising that you, Stu and Phil can’t see anything but a legit penalty. I can see why, I get it.

We all own Wenger glasses, lar.

 

[Pin-seeker]

We all own Wenger glasses, lar.

Nah you’ve got your own glasses you lot 🤓

 

[Deleted member 1740]

100% Mane conned the ref and VAR and quite a few diehard Liverpool fans too.

Leaves his left leg behind to ensure contact then dives to the ground.

The clincher for me is that he rolls around holding his right shin! Such a cheat.

Oh but there’s contact he earnt the right to go down? No, not if he engineered the contact and not if the contact was minuscule.

You do realise the pen was checked by a ref 100's of miles away? If he had "conned" the ref the VAR ref wouldve flagged it up. 100%

To quote a forummer.....

Are you a professional arbiter of the rules of football?

If the answer is 'no', then your statement is an opinion.

The referees apply the rules as dictated by the ruling bodies. So their ruling is more valid than your opinion (which incidentally is the same as my opinion)

👍

 

[sawtooth]

We all own Wenger glasses, lar.

That would only make sense if you all claimed not to have seen it.👍

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Mane’s got form, it’s the 95th minute, it had all the hallmarks.

But I’ve seen it and I know a dive when I see one.

It’s not surprising that you, Stu and Phil can’t see anything but a legit penalty. I can see why, I get it.

Ahem, see #3345 👍

 

[Pin-seeker]

You do realise the pen was checked by a ref 100's of miles away? If he had "conned" the ref the VAR ref wouldve flagged it up. 100%

To quote a forummer.....

Are you a professional arbiter of the rules of football?

If the answer is 'no', then your statement is an opinion.

The referees apply the rules as dictated by the ruling bodies. So their ruling is more valid than your opinion (which incidentally is the same as my opinion)

👍

Got to love VAR

 

[sawtooth]

You do realise the pen was checked by a ref 100's of miles away? If he had "conned" the ref the VAR ref wouldve flagged it up. 100%

To quote a forummer.....

Are you a professional arbiter of the rules of football?

If the answer is 'no', then your statement is an opinion.

The referees apply the rules as dictated by the ruling bodies. So their ruling is more valid than your opinion (which incidentally is the same as my opinion)

👍

The system is flawed. The ref gave it and it seems that VAR is unlikely to overturn it.

You’re right it’s only my opinion it counts for nothing but I’m confident that on this occasion Mane didn’t con me at least.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

The system is flawed. The ref gave it and it seems that VAR is unlikely to overturn it.

You’re right it’s only my opinion it counts for nothing but I’m confident that on this occasion Mane didn’t con me at least.

If it's wrong I'm confident VAR will overturn it.

The issue I see is, penalties have been given since late 90's early 00's on the basis theres contact. Now I dont see all contact as pens but the more wrong pens have been given, the more acceptable the next one is.

Mane has gone down way too easy but theres contact. How do we measure if it's enough contact to warrant a pen?

 

[fundy]

If it's wrong I'm confident VAR will overturn it.

The issue I see is, penalties have been given since late 90's early 00's on the basis theres contact. Now I dont see all contact as pens but the more wrong pens have been given, the more acceptable the next one is.

Mane has gone down way too easy but theres contact. How do we measure if it's enough contact to warrant a pen?

Do you really believe that first line Stu? Seriously? Currently VAR is measuring offsides to an accuracy it cant actually measure to based on when the ball is kicked and backing up the refs unless they really dont have to (bit like umps call in the cricket)

Youre right theyve been doing it too long but sooooooo many of them (Manes included) are just so unnatural its clear theyve thown themselves to the floor on the tiniest of contacts. As you say though, until they change the rules and how they are applied, they will all keep cheating and plenty will keep getting away with it. Doesnt make it right though

 

[Pin-seeker]

If it's wrong I'm confident VAR will overturn it.

The issue I see is, penalties have been given since late 90's early 00's on the basis theres contact. Now I dont see all contact as pens but the more wrong pens have been given, the more acceptable the next one is.

Mane has gone down way too easy but theres contact. How do we measure if it's enough contact to warrant a pen?

Penalty or not by the letter of the law,we can all use our own eyes & judgement to make a decision if he is pulling a fast one.
Fair play to him he salvaged a win.