Premier League 2019-2020 we’re off

[davemc1]

I was made up when I saw there was 4 pages after our game had finished. Got half way thru an got bored

Expected the usual blah but heck, yous are the worst

Where’s the fun gone?

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Do you really believe that first line Stu? Seriously? Currently VAR is measuring offsides to an accuracy it cant actually measure to based on when the ball is kicked and backing up the refs unless they really dont have to (bit like umps call in the cricket)

Youre right theyve been doing it too long but sooooooo many of them (Manes included) are just so unnatural its clear theyve thown themselves to the floor on the tiniest of contacts. As you say though, until they change the rules and how they are applied, they will all keep cheating and plenty will keep getting away with it. Doesnt make it right though

Yes I am. Theres no way if theres no contact that pen stands. If theres no contact do you think the pen stands?

I'm against VAR,especially this current crap, it's not what the game needs right now.

Your last paragraph I totally agree with you.

 

[Pin-seeker]

I was made up when I saw there was 4 pages after our game had finished. Got half way thru an got bored

Expected the usual blah but heck, yous are the worst

Where’s the fun gone?

Calm down soft lad and watch your potty mouth 👍🏻

 

[clubchamp98]

Manes gone down very late and it looks soft imo.
But you have to ask what is Albrighton doing kicking him in the box .
He has given the ref a decision to make ,but if Mane stays on his feet he won’t give it.
Mane is facing away from the goal just don’t let him turn!
Thought VAR would sort this out but it’s ok for offside,, the rest is just someone giving an opinion from 200 miles away.

Anyone tackling like Chourdry on Salah to just break up play should be red ,it’s the only way to stop it.

 

[Pin-seeker]

Manes gone down very late and it looks soft imo.
But you have to ask what is Albrighton doing kicking him in the box .
He has given the ref a decision to make ,but if Mane stays on his feet he won’t give it.
Mane is facing away from the goal just don’t let him turn!
Thought VAR would sort this out but it’s ok for offside,, the rest is just someone giving an opinion from 200 miles away.

Anyone tackling like Chourdry on Salah to just break up play should be red ,it’s the only way to stop it.

Any thoughts on Trents challenge?

 

[Papas1982]

Just watched it on Sky. Thats a penalty all day long. Does Mane roll around like a tart. Yes. But he still would have falllen as his leg wasn't planted.

 

[sawtooth]

Just watched it on Sky. Thats a penalty all day long. Does Mane roll around like a tart. Yes. But he still would have falllen as his leg wasn't planted.

If this was the first minute of the game and Mane was in the middle of the pitch he stays on his feet and carries on.

But it’s the 95th minute, his team need a goal, he’s in the penalty area, facing away from goal, surrounded by opponents, the chance of a goal has gone, he does whatever he can to make sure there is contact , any contact, then goes down, rolls around and forgets what leg he cheated with as he holds the wrong one, Clearly it was convincing as he conned the ref and VAR is reluctant to override a refs judgement.

And by the letter of the law as Stu pointed out , contact however small seems to satisfy criteria nowadays for a pen. Whilst that mindset exists it’s open season for people like Mane I’m afraid.

 

[Papas1982]

If this was the first minute of the game and Mane was in the middle of the pitch he stays on his feet and carries on.

But it’s the 95th minute, his team need a goal, he’s in the penalty area, facing away from goal, surrounded by opponents, the chance of a goal has gone, he does whatever he can to make sure there is contact , any contact, then goes down, rolls around and forgets what leg he cheated with as he holds the wrong one, Clearly it was convincing as he conned the ref and VAR is reluctant to override a refs judgement.

And by the letter of the law as Stu pointed out , contact however small seems to satisfy criteria nowadays for a pen. Whilst that mindset exists it’s open season for people like Mane I’m afraid.

He makes a meal of it. But let's not make out like Mane was the start of this issue....

But I challenge anyone to not react when kicked on the ankle. Its not a case of winning a penalty either. He is fouled. He overreacts, but it doesn't mean its not a foul.

 

[sawtooth]

He makes a meal of it. But let's not make out like Mane was the start of this issue....

But I challenge anyone to not react when kicked on the ankle. Its not a case of winning a penalty either. He is fouled. He overreacts, but it doesn't mean its not a foul.

Fair enough I respect your point of view.

I call it a touch you call it a foul. We all see things diffently.

 

[Deleted member 18121]

I knew there was a reason I stopped looking at this thread.... Jeez some of you lot embarrass yourselves.

 

[USER1999]

Soyuncu was coming to Arsenal only recently, until they pulled the plug on the deal. Obviously our CBs are so much better we didn't need him.

😓

 

[ColchesterFC]

He makes a meal of it. But let's not make out like Mane was the start of this issue....

But I challenge anyone to not react when kicked on the ankle. Its not a case of winning a penalty either. He is fouled. He overreacts, but it doesn't mean its not a foul.

I agree with this. My opinion is that it's a foul and a penalty AND a dive by Mane. The defender has kicked Mane and fouled him but then Mane dives to the ground (possibly just to highlight to the ref that he's been kicked). The contact itself doesn't look as though it's enough to bring him down therefore in my view he's dived.

 

[sawtooth]

Soyuncu was coming to Arsenal only recently, until they pulled the plug on the deal. Obviously our CBs are so much better we didn't need him.

😓

He done well yesterday lol, from the MOTD highlights alone I saw that he was culpable on more than one occasion.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Having now seen the highlights the most dangerous tackle was the one by TAA on Tielemans - nasty and deliberate. Could have caused a serious injury. Choudrey on Salah was late and from behind, but not dangerous and not anywhere near as likely to cause an injury as the challenge last week on Praet which you didn’t have a problem with.

Well i have seen the highlights now so

1. TAA - never deliberate , painful but purely accidental, went to VAR as well and don’t think he was even yellow carded

2. Choudrey - cynical , nowhere near the ball , deliberate- some would have given a red and there would have been no complaints - did laugh when someone said it was a tired tackle 😂😂 he had only been on 5 mins

3. The penalty - it’s a penalty but Mane does make a meal of it but every single other player does and would have done , made me laugh when “English pundits” accuse the foreign player of diving yet when Kane and Co do it - the attitude is different

If this was the first minute of the game and Mane was in the middle of the pitch he stays on his feet and carries on.

But it’s the 95th minute, his team need a goal, he’s in the penalty area, facing away from goal, surrounded by opponents, the chance of a goal has gone, he does whatever he can to make sure there is contact , any contact, then goes down, rolls around and forgets what leg he cheated with as he holds the wrong one, Clearly it was convincing as he conned the ref and VAR is reluctant to override a refs judgement.

And by the letter of the law as Stu pointed out , contact however small seems to satisfy criteria nowadays for a pen. Whilst that mindset exists it’s open season for people like Mane I’m afraid.

Don’t you mean for every player goes down in that situation mainly to ensure the penalty is given , it’s a foul.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Lloris just had shocker there, his body wasn't set right nor were his legs.
Brighton seem to have played at a high tempo and credit to them.
Spurs are an embarrassing disgrace

His mistakes seem more common now, do you think his time is up? What is your back up like, a proper number 2 or a bench warmer only?

 

[ColchesterFC]

Well i have seen the highlights now so

1. TAA - never deliberate , painful but purely accidental, went to VAR as well and don’t think he was even yellow carded

2. Choudrey - cynical , nowhere near the ball , deliberate- some would have given a red and there would have been no complaints - did laugh when someone said it was a tired tackle 😂😂 he had only been on 5 mins

3. The penalty - it’s a penalty but Mane does make a meal of it but every single other player does and would have done , made me laugh when “English pundits” accuse the foreign player of diving yet when Kane and Co do it - the attitude is different

Number 3 could just as easily read "made me laugh when fans of one club accuse other players of diving yet when it's one of their own - the attitude is different"

 

[gmc40]

Mane’s got form, it’s the 95th minute, it had all the hallmarks.

But I’ve seen it and I know a dive when I see one.

It’s not surprising that you, Stu and Phil can’t see anything but a legit penalty. I can see why, I get it.

They showed it from every angle live on tv. He milked it but he was impeded and it was a pen.

 

[sawtooth]

Making a meal of it is a form of simulation surely? it’s cheating.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Making a meal of it is a form of simulation surely? it’s cheating.

And every single player does it - doesn’t mean it’s not a foul or a penalty. If there is no touch then it’s a dive or simulation that needs to be stopped. There have been a number of occasions where a player has been fouled but didn’t go down and the ref doesn’t blow or give the penalty - which team loses out there ? That’s why players now go down when they are fouled - to ensure the foul is given. It’s not great for the sport but until refs blow up then players will continue to do it and that’s all players

 

[Papas1982]

His mistakes seem more common now, do you think his time is up? What is your back up like, a proper number 2 or a bench warmer only?

Gazzaniga is shocking. They need a new keeper imo