Premier League 2019-2020 we’re off

[Junior]

Worst case scenario, dont play any footy and restart the season next year where it stopped this year.

European competitions - just take the league positions as is.

Player contracts will just have to be sorted and if a player leaves so be it.

The players instead of having a year off should all go picking fruit in east Anglia. Sorted.

 

[Fade and Die]

That would be after SD is stopped as all those games had fans .
That’s the correct way imo.
When that will be is anyone’s guess though.

Exactly....Said it before - probably 16 or so players jostling together at corner kicks yet only 6 allowed at a funeral... Something wrong with society if we let this happen.

 

[fundy]

And what if one team or some of the players refuse, what then? Sanctions? Relegation?

court room, which is where this will end up one way or another

 

[Imurg]

court room, which is where this will end up one way or another

Wish I'd studied Law all those years ago....

 

[fundy]

Wish I'd studied Law all those years ago....

I did, but only contract law and damned if i can remember any of it lol

 

[Deleted member 1740]

And, effectively, changing the rules part way through a season surely has to deal a blow to the notion of preserving the integrity of the game..?

Yes its a massive blow. It shouldn’t be allowed to happen.

 

[Old Skier]

Only the PL and football trying to find ways to still make money IMO. Stop league now, results stand as they are, no ups no downs. Losers and gainers, strange times, live with it.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

That would be after SD is stopped as all those games had fans .
That’s the correct way imo.
When that will be is anyone’s guess though.

Fair point, but if it means getting it restarted without fans then that’s a compromise we have to accept. I believe playing behind closed doors would benefit the away side.

I agree. restart the game from where we left off only when it’s safe to do so.

correct. That’s why voiding the season is wrong. People want it voiding so we can start a fresh in August, right now that’s unlikely to happen. So what’s the point in voiding if there’s no guarantee next season starting on time?

 

[clubchamp98]

Fair point, but if it means getting it restarted without fans then that’s a compromise we have to accept. I believe playing behind closed doors would benefit the away side.

I agree. restart the game from where we left off only when it’s safe to do so.

correct. That’s why voiding the season is wrong. People want it voiding so we can start a fresh in August, right now that’s unlikely to happen. So what’s the point in voiding if there’s no guarantee next season starting on time?

Yes agree.
It must be easier to reschedule a season that hasn’t started than one nearly finished.
Asking players to play while not letting fans in because of SD is just not on.
Covid can damage your lungs and organs ,imagine if a top athlete gets it , could be his career over.
Just start again when safe , and sort next season when we start playing again.

 

[Fade and Die]

All this talk of neutral venues proves the whole point of the English Pl structure is for the TV Companies and their revenues...it is a sport for people and if people cant go then what is the point?

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Only the PL and football trying to find ways to still make money IMO. Stop league now, results stand as they are, no ups no downs. Losers and gainers, strange times, live with it.

They won’t be making any money without fans If it’s restarted, if anything they’ll be losing. Using us an example, I’ll be entitled to a refund on my ST for games lost. Mine averages about £49 per game so £49 pg x 4 games missed = £196 x by 30,000 ST holders =£5.9m.

Then there’s 23,000 general admission seats at say an average of £55 x4 games x 23000 = £5m. That’s almost £11m In refunds they’ll need to make if football goes ahead. Then there’s the hospitality packages which range between £350-£1200 per ticket get game.

 

[fundy]

All this talk of neutral venues proves the whole point of the English Pl structure is for the TV Companies and their revenues...it is a sport for people and if people cant go then what is the point?

There argument will be if they can show every game live on tv then thats better than no football at all. Sadly match going fans long stopped being important to the powers that be

 

[Deleted member 1740]

There argument will be if they can show every game live on tv then thats better than no football at all. Sadly match going fans long stopped being important to the powers that be

buy as many shares as you can in sofolgy or DFS, the sale of armchairs will be worse than toilet roll?

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Yes agree.
It must be easier to reschedule a season that hasn’t started than one nearly finished.
Asking players to play while not letting fans in because of SD is just not on.
Covid can damage your lungs and organs ,imagine if a top athlete gets it , could be his career over.
Just start again when safe , and sort next season when we start playing again.

Hypothetically what if WHO and our medical experts whom the government are taking advice from say it’s safe for sport to recommence without fans, what happens then?

 

[fundy]

Hypothetically what if WHO and our medical experts whom the government are taking advice from say it’s safe for sport to recommence without fans, what happens then?

you'll find out in about 6 weeks time

 

[clubchamp98]

Hypothetically what if WHO and our medical experts whom the government are taking advice from say it’s safe for sport to recommence without fans, what happens then?

It was drummed into me that “you are your own safety officer”
As a crane driver nobody could tell me something was safe to do.
My lads had the final say in lifting anything ,the driver had the final say.
I would imagine footballers would have the same rights over their safety.
But it will be interesting to see what happens.
As there will be some who don’t want to play.

 

[Papas1982]

They won’t be making any money without fans If it’s restarted, if anything they’ll be losing. Using us an example, I’ll be entitled to a refund on my ST for games lost. Mine averages about £49 per game so £49 pg x 4 games missed = £196 x by 30,000 ST holders =£5.9m.

Then there’s 23,000 general admission seats at say an average of £55 x4 games x 23000 = £5m. That’s almost £11m In refunds they’ll need to make if football goes ahead. Then there’s the hospitality packages which range between £350-£1200 per ticket get game.

Totally agree with the numbers mate, but they'll still better off behind closed doors than cancelled season.

Obv there will be differences with each clubs attendances prices. Lets for arguments sake say every team charges £60 a ticket and has 60000 fans ever week. That's 68.4m I belive. The revenue from that is TV money is worth I belive £80m basic. So losing TV money is still the bigger hit as I'm sure sky would say no season fulfilled. No payment at all.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

And what if one team or some of the players refuse, what then? Sanctions? Relegation?

If you sign up to a league or organisation than you abide by the rules and structure. If those rules say it needs 14 votes to pass then you accept it or accept the consequences. I don't know the PL rule book but the ultimate sanction is demotion from the league. Let's face it, there will be no shortage of clubs willing to take the place of a team that refuses to accept a vote that is passed.

 

[clubchamp98]

I still don’t think you can ask a footballer to play while not letting the fans in.
If it’s not safe to let fans attend because of SD .
How could you ask never mind force a player to play.
It’s a contact sport and can’t be played under SD imo.

 

[clubchamp98]

If you sign up to a league or organisation than you abide by the rules and structure. If those rules say it needs 14 votes to pass then you accept it or accept the consequences. I don't know the PL rule book but the ultimate sanction is demotion from the league. Let's face it, there will be no shortage of clubs willing to take the place of a team that refuses to accept a vote that is passed.

The clubs might ok playing but half the players may say no.
The referees and Lino might say no what then.
Think the courts are going to be busy.