Premier League 2019-2020 we’re off

[Old Skier]

They won’t be making any money without fans If it’s restarted, if anything they’ll be losing. Using us an example, I’ll be entitled to a refund on my ST for games lost. Mine averages about £49 per game so £49 pg x 4 games missed = £196 x by 30,000 ST holders =£5.9m.

Then there’s 23,000 general admission seats at say an average of £55 x4 games x 23000 = £5m. That’s almost £11m In refunds they’ll need to make if football goes ahead. Then there’s the hospitality packages which range between £350-£1200 per ticket get game.

The only reason I put make money is it will allow Sky and others to start generating income otherwise the money payed by them to the leagues will be significantly reduced in the future.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Totally agree with the numbers mate, but they'll still better off behind closed doors than cancelled season.

Obv there will be differences with each clubs attendances prices. Lets for arguments sake say every team charges £60 a ticket and has 60000 fans ever week. That's 68.4m I belive. The revenue from that is TV money is worth I belive £80m basic. So losing TV money is still the bigger hit as I'm sure sky would say no season fulfilled. No payment at all.

Better off? Very much doubt it. Old Skier was suggesting they're putting money before all else, I've given a fair example of how theyll be losing money. Obviously clubs will differ but I think percentage wise theyll all suffer the same loss.

Sky have already said they wont be asking for any refunds so teams wont lose TV money, just more games next season.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

The only reason I put make money is it will allow Sky and others to start generating income otherwise the money payed by them to the leagues will be significantly reduced in the future.

Sky might want to protect their investment but clubs will lose money either way if its void or behind closed doors.

No monies will be reduced until the next round of TV rights contract renewal, sky have confirmed this. They just want more games next season what they've lost this season.

 

[Papas1982]

Better off? Very much doubt it. Old Skier was suggesting they're putting money before all else, I've given a fair example of how theyll be losing money. Obviously clubs will differ but I think percentage wise theyll all suffer the same loss.

Sky have already said they wont be asking for any refunds so teams wont lose TV money, just more games next season.

Hadn’t see that tbh. I was simply looking from a business POV. without the above knowledge. Tv money minus refunds, better than no tv money At all.
With sky honouring money, that’s obv not the case.

 

[Old Skier]

Better off? Very much doubt it. Old Skier was suggesting they're putting money before all else, I've given a fair example of how theyll be losing money. Obviously clubs will differ but I think percentage wise theyll all suffer the same loss.

Sky have already said they wont be asking for any refunds so teams wont lose TV money, just more games next season.

You also suggest there might not be a next season. Anyway as a Wrexham supporter I was more than relieved when they cancelled there league

 

[Lord Tyrion]

The clubs might ok playing but half the players may say no.
The referees and Lino might say no what then.
Think the courts are going to be busy.

I think bringing the pfa on board will be critical. Same for the refs. If they can be shown a way of doing this safely then the majority will come on board. There may be a few that refuse but if the vast majority agree then it will go ahead. Plenty of players in a squad, plenty will be happy to step up.

 

[rudebhoy]

It's a crazy idea. We keep hearing that social distancing is going to be with us for months, yet we are contemplating having full contact sport. So, do all the players and staff go into a lockdown situation at St George's for weeks? Not seeing their families for all that time? We know how selfish and irresponsible footballers can be, Jack Grealish and Kyle Walker are great examples. Some will break the lockdown, no doubt about it.

And then there is the fans. How many will want to go and watch the match on tv with their mates, particularly if it's the game where you could will the league? Concerns have already been raised about fans congregating at Anfield the night they clinch it.

They have estimated 60k tests will be needed as they are planning on testing all the players on a daily basis. Is that really the best use of a vital resource?

And from a neutral's point of view, have you ever tried watching a closed doors game on tv? The total lack of atmosphere kills it as a spectacle.

 

[Orikoru]

Only the PL and football trying to find ways to still make money IMO. Stop league now, results stand as they are, no ups no downs. Losers and gainers, strange times, live with it.

Sorry but comments like this are total nonsense. As if clubs who stand to lose billions of pounds based on an off the cuff arbitrary ruling like that are just going to accept it. It would be total carnage.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Hadn’t see that tbh. I was simply looking from a business POV. without the above knowledge. Tv money minus refunds, better than no tv money At all.
With sky honouring money, that’s obv not the case.

yeah initially PL said they faced £720m bill if football is voided. Sky are obviously already in balls deep with football and dont want to lose out so they said they’d defer any payments for more games next season.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

You also suggest there might not be a next season. Anyway as a Wrexham supporter I was more than relieved when they cancelled there league

There’s a real possibility of no football being played til next year, that must be acknowledged before making decisions on this season.
I guess the reason Wrexham’s league was cancelled was down to clubs not being in a financial position to pay players for an indefinite period unlike the rest of the leagues. Obvuiosly the EFL clubs have all had a payment from the EFL.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Saw the premier League is looking at the entire of next season behind closed doors

Reducing transfers in summer as money will be tighter

Fair enough I guess

I'd be happy so long as we sign the midfielder soucek who we have to buy if we stay up. Yes we are rubbish but to keep rice another season and keep what we have with players coming back from loans that would see us through next season

When this season resumes just got to adjust to what happens

I think we will see title race etc finished

But relegation will be binned. Promotion only for the year with bigger leagues for next year say 2 up and then 5 down next year to make up for it.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Saw the premier League is looking at the entire of next season behind closed doors

Reducing transfers in summer as money will be tighter

Fair enough I guess

I'd be happy so long as we sign the midfielder soucek who we have to buy if we stay up. Yes we are rubbish but to keep rice another season and keep what we have with players coming back from loans that would see us through next season

When this season resumes just got to adjust to what happens

I think we will see title race etc finished

But relegation will be binned. Promotion only for the year with bigger leagues for next year say 2 up and then 5 down next year to make up for it.

That cannot happens. It will make a complete mockery of the game.

Think about it logically now, you’re suggesting 5 teams going down next season.

if they agree to that they will be signing their own death warrant for next season. by that I mean theres teams who think there’s 3worse teams off than us in a normal league season, but they are in the next five.

With limited transfers and lack of squad improvements some of those teams down the bottom now will be dragged in even further.

lets use Bournemouth for example, they been decimated by injuries this season, if they stay up and with a full squad they’re not in the worst 3 teams, but with a couple of injuries they’re comfortably in the worst 5 teams. It only takes West Brom or Leeds to have a season like Sheffield United and it puts another proven PL side relegated.

Does that make any sense?.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

That cannot happens. It will make a complete mockery of the game.

Think about it logically now, you’re suggesting 5 teams going down next season.

if they agree to that they will be signing their own death warrant for next season. by that I mean theres teams who think there’s 3worse teams off than us in a normal league season, but they are in the next five.

With limited transfers and lack of squad improvements some of those teams down the bottom now will be dragged in even further.

lets use Bournemouth for example, they been decimated by injuries this season, if they stay up and with a full squad they’re not in the worst 3 teams, but with a couple of injuries they’re comfortably in the worst 5 teams. It only takes West Brom or Leeds to have a season like Sheffield United and it puts another proven PL side relegated.

Does that make any sense?.

I think we are long past making a mockery of the game

We are looking to restart a season whilst a global pandemic is still affecting us

We are looking at games behind closed doors

We are prepared to change everything because football is at the bidding of skys TV money

Think mockery went out the window ages ago

 

[Deleted member 1740]

I think we are long past making a mockery of the game

We are looking to restart a season whilst a global pandemic is still affecting us

We are looking at games behind closed doors

We are prepared to change everything because football is at the bidding of skys TV money

Think mockery went out the window ages ago

All the changes and wrongs about PL that have gone on before, whether its 8pm ko’s boxing night or 5:30pm ko ‘son a New Year’s Eve,VAR etc the integrity on the field has always been protected. It’s always been a fair competition.

There’s no need to do anything other than reconvene at the earliest opportunity when it’s safe to do so and play week 29’s games. It’s simple as that.

 

[fundy]

All the changes and wrongs about PL that have gone on before, whether its 8pm ko’s boxing night or 5:30pm ko ‘son a New Year’s Eve,VAR etc the integrity on the field has always been protected. It’s always been a fair competition.

There’s no need to do anything other than reconvene at the earliest opportunity when it’s safe to do so and play week 29’s games. It’s simple as that.

not sure the bottom 6 see it that way, they see a boardroom/courtroom way out of half of them being relegated and staying on the gravy train for another year. if youre expecting integrity from the likes of West Hams boardroom could be in for a long wait

 

[Deleted member 1740]

not sure the bottom 6 see it that way, they see a boardroom/courtroom way out of half of them being relegated and staying on the gravy train for another year. if youre expecting integrity from the likes of West Hams boardroom could be in for a long wait

of course they do. Integrity when it suits them.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

All the changes and wrongs about PL that have gone on before, whether its 8pm ko’s boxing night or 5:30pm ko ‘son a New Year’s Eve,VAR etc the integrity on the field has always been protected. It’s always been a fair competition.

There’s no need to do anything other than reconvene at the earliest opportunity when it’s safe to do so and play week 29’s games. It’s simple as that.

Respectfully disagree

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/fo...verpool-cost-me-top-flight-place-6376597.html

I mean I always thought it was tevez fault they went down

But again Liverpool did put a weak team out there for the premier League field was weakened

Same at man United when they smashed the league and won so early .. could then weaken the team allowing for any relegation scrappers to have more of a chance

Football has zero integrity

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Respectfully disagree

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/fo...verpool-cost-me-top-flight-place-6376597.html

I mean I always thought it was tevez fault they went down

But again Liverpool did put a weak team out there for the premier League field was weakened

Same at man United when they smashed the league and won so early .. could then weaken the team allowing for any relegation scrappers to have more of a chance

Football has zero integrity

Typical sour grapes.

Warnock had 38 games to stay up, like every other manager/team who have gone down before and after them.

Liverpool played fulham away 3days after a very important semi final 2nd leg against Chelsea. We were comfortably in the top4 and used squad players who had all played games that season. To claim they’ve got no integrity is stupid, it’s a squad game afterall.

We lost 1-0 and went onto to lose to AC but it was still the right decision. Imagine losing important players in a dead rubber game.

Just found the line up from that day, it was hardly the kids....

Reina, Arbeloa, Paletta, Hyypia, Insua (Finnan 75), Pennant (El Zhar 65), Alonso, Sissoko, Gonzalez (Kewell 77), Fowler, Bellamy.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Typical sour grapes.

Warnock had 38 games to stay up, like every other manager/team who have gone down before and after them.

Liverpool played fulham away 3days after a very important semi final 2nd leg against Chelsea. We were comfortably in the top4 and used squad players who had all played games that season. To claim they’ve got no integrity is stupid, it’s a squad game afterall.

We lost 1-0 and went onto to lose to AC but it was still the right decision. Imagine losing important players in a dead rubber game.

I remember at the time the premier League were threatening Liverpool with action if they didn't field a strong team due to some rule about fielding your best available 11 at all times or something

Came to nothing in the end

 

[Deleted member 1740]

I remember at the time the premier League were threatening Liverpool with action if they didn't field a strong team due to some rule about fielding your best available 11 at all times or something

Came to nothing in the end

You‘ve a better memory than me because I can’t remember it. There was a team that was fined iirc for making 10 changes, it may have been hull or someone I can’t think right now but they were the only one.

That game you linked to, Micheal brown head butted Xabi Alonso that game and got away with it.