That's fair re playing dates. I was simply continuing the original convo about when money was spent (90's). But accept it's a little grey as to where you'd count em.
That's fair re playing dates. I was simply continuing the original convo about when money was spent (90's). But accept it's a little grey as to where you'd count em.
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Interestingly that was only the second penalty KDB has ever taken for City. The last one was in October 2016. He missed. Weird that it has taken over three years for him to have another go though. Lord knows Agüero is terrible at them, and he got plenty of goes at it! (In fact he missed one on the same day as KDB's missed one
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Oh and while we're on the subject, Gabriel Jesus has the worst penalty record I've ever seen. Scored 4.. missed 6! 
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Oh and while we're on the subject, Diane Abbott has the worst penalty record I've ever seen. Taken 4.. missed 6!
Sorted Ori ??
Wolf
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That's hilarious and relevant to your strikers crap ability at penalty taking isn't it?
Another fun one is Ronaldo's free kick record, he has gone Roberto Carlos on us. It is clearly his ball at Juventus but his record since joining up to the end of October 2019 was 29 taken, none scored. Only 7 on target. I heard a reporter mention last night that he had taken another, missed and indicated that was standard now so that makes me think he has not scored one since that stat either.Oh and while we're on the subject, Gabriel Jesus has the worst penalty record I've ever seen. Scored 4.. missed 6!
Orikoru
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He has never been that good at free kicks. It's a myth perpetuated because you only see the odd amazing one that flies in the top corner. But his technique is very much throwing
at a wall and seeing what sticks. Basically he just leathers it, if it's on target it's hard to stop, but 90% of them are not. He is definitely not what you'd call a free kick specialist.
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Ah remember Juninho Pernambucano. Now that was a free kick specialist.
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what i dont understand is the best penalty taker apparently is the goalie Emerson. In extreme pressure he is the man. 1-1 at the Bernabeu don’t get much more extreme than that.
Wolf
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If that's true they should have him banging all the penalties in. Bit like Paraguay keeper Chilavert used to, he had 46 club goals and 8 international from taking free kicks and penalties.
I suspect Ronaldo's success ratio was okay at some point but that stopped quite a while ago. His ego prevents him from letting anyone else take them and no manager seems able to stand up to him. Pretty disheartening for his team mates.He has never been that good at free kicks. It's a myth perpetuated because you only see the odd amazing one that flies in the top corner. But his technique is very much throwing
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I think the fear is if he misses it gives the opposition a chance to counter with a free shot at goal. Imagine in a shoot-out he'd be one of the 5 takers.
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I thought that but Man City are the kings of tactical fouling. If he misses the pen and it doesn't go out of play, one of them will just deck the guy nearest the ball and give Ederson the chance to get back.
It's probably worth letting him take them, City have been awarded the second most penalties this season but only scored 43% of them:
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/topErhalteneElfmeter/wettbewerb/GB1
Think Mitrovic has given him lessons. Absolute shocker last night and then goes and gets the injury time winner so all is forgivenOh and while we're on the subject, Gabriel Jesus has the worst penalty record I've ever seen. Scored 4.. missed 6!
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Tactical fouls is the correct answer. ?Allla Ramos.
4LEX
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His technique was actually the original proper knuckleball. I suspect he missed a lot more than he scored but we only saw highlights in that era from France. Although he could manipulate the ball in a more traditional way too.
With freekicks I really don't get why players can't mix it up. Close ones under the wall or clipped, mid range a mix with the whipped Beckham type and the knuckleball or thunderb*tard from range.
The best freekick takers in England from the last 20 years were Beckham and Ian Harte IMO.
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Juninho Pernambucano was most likely the best free kick taker of all time. The sheer number he scored is impressive, but also the different styles. Some he laced in from distance, others he curled in with finesse. Definitely the best I've seen.
Just saw this list on an article published about 10 months ago:
TOP 10 FREE KICK TAKERS EVER
1. Juninho - 77
2. Pele - 70
3=. Legrottaglie - 66
3=. Ronaldinho - 66
5. Beckham - 65
6=. Maradona - 62
6=. Zico - 62
8. Ronald Koeman - 60
9=. Ceni - 59
9=. Carioca - 59
Ceni was a goalkeeper I believe.
Just saw this list on an article published about 10 months ago:
TOP 10 FREE KICK TAKERS EVER
1. Juninho - 77
2. Pele - 70
3=. Legrottaglie - 66
3=. Ronaldinho - 66
5. Beckham - 65
6=. Maradona - 62
6=. Zico - 62
8. Ronald Koeman - 60
9=. Ceni - 59
9=. Carioca - 59
Ceni was a goalkeeper I believe.
What those figures don't tell you is what their success ratio was. Beckham and Ronaldo, still, for example wouldn't let anyone else take a free kick so they had every one going. I want someone with the best score ratio, not necessarily the most goals.Juninho Pernambucano was most likely the best free kick taker of all time. The sheer number he scored is impressive, but also the different styles. Some he laced in from distance, others he curled in with finesse. Definitely the best I've seen.
Just saw this list on an article published about 10 months ago:
TOP 10 FREE KICK TAKERS EVER
1. Juninho - 77
2. Pele - 70
3=. Legrottaglie - 66
3=. Ronaldinho - 66
5. Beckham - 65
6=. Maradona - 62
6=. Zico - 62
8. Ronald Koeman - 60
9=. Ceni - 59
9=. Carioca - 59
Ceni was a goalkeeper I believe.
Orikoru
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Becks was definitely justified in taking them though. He was certainly one of the best we've ever seen in the game.
This is interesting but it's out of date: https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/revealed-20-best-free-kick-takers-european-football As it mentions there, Bale is great at free kicks and was probably annoyed that Ronaldo was taking them all the time when he was at Real.
Becks was for a spell but then he stopped scoring so often and also ended up taking them when they did not suit him, ie better for a left footer. At his peak he was tremendous, no question
