Premier League 2019-2020 we’re off

[Deleted member 15344]

nows the time to lump on em for a couple of league titles.

Without CL football then they lose a lot of money , prob also players , manager , sponsers - ultimately could end up with the owner selling up as well - could see them go back to where they were before the Sheik arrived. It’s a huge for them premier League

 

[Papas1982]

I’m pretty confident Pep was history anyway, but that said, why would he be sacked for this, it’s not his money, he can ask for whatever he wants, it’s the board that decides what they spend and how they account for it, unless you’re all inferring that he won’t want to stay without CL.

Will there be an exodus of players wanting away also, and will players planned on coming now think twice with no CL on the table?

i don’t think anyone is saying he’ll be sacked. It’s more that he will want to leave. The CL is what he wants to win. PSG or Juve to continue his “legacy“ of collected easy trophies.

 

[Tashyboy]

gonna be one very large brown envelope on its way to Uefa

bank transfer to the Caymans ??

 

[Papas1982]

Without CL football then they lose a lot of money , prob also players , manager , sponsers - ultimately could end up with the owner selling up as well - could see them go back to where they were before the Sheik arrived. It’s a huge for them premier League

Think that’s a tad optimistic tbh.
its 2 seasons, the might need to sign a few more youngsters who don’t need cl footy. But they’ll be back in two years. Obv some may want to leave, but their stars would still cost 100m plus giving them plenty to sign promising players.

 

[Fish]

So with fans now saving on CL tickets at home & away games, will the home gates fill up a few more of the empty seats ?

 

[fundy]

“Manchester City is disappointed but not surprised by today’s announcement by the UEFA Adjudicatory Chamber,” their statement said.

“The club has always anticipated the ultimate need to seek out an independent body and process to impartially consider the comprehensive body of irrefutable evidence in support of its position.

“In December 2018, the UEFA Chief Investigator publicly previewed the outcome and sanction he intended to be delivered to Manchester City, before any investigation had even begun. The subsequent flawed and consistently leaked UEFA process he oversaw has meant that there was little doubt in the result that he would deliver.

“The club has formally complained to the UEFA Disciplinary body, a complaint which was validated by a CAS ruling.

“Simply put, this is a case initiated by UEFA, prosecuted by UEFA and judged by UEFA. With this prejudicial process now over, the club will pursue an impartial judgment as quickly as possible and will therefore, in the first instance, commence proceedings with the Court of Arbitration for Sport at the earliest opportunity.”

 

[Fish]

“Manchester City is disappointed but not surprised by today’s announcement by the UEFA Adjudicatory Chamber,” their statement said.

“The club has always anticipated the ultimate need to seek out an independent body and process to impartially consider the comprehensive body of irrefutable evidence in support of its position.

“In December 2018, the UEFA Chief Investigator publicly previewed the outcome and sanction he intended to be delivered to Manchester City, before any investigation had even begun. The subsequent flawed and consistently leaked UEFA process he oversaw has meant that there was little doubt in the result that he would deliver.

“The club has formally complained to the UEFA Disciplinary body, a complaint which was validated by a CAS ruling.

“Simply put, this is a case initiated by UEFA, prosecuted by UEFA and judged by UEFA. With this prejudicial process now over, the club will pursue an impartial judgment as quickly as possible and will therefore, in the first instance, commence proceedings with the Court of Arbitration for Sport at the earliest opportunity.”

But in the meantime, still be banned?

 

[pendodave]

Presumably, they've given two in anticipation that it will be reduced to one under some sort of bargaining arrangement

 

[BubbaP]

Think that’s a tad optimistic tbh.
its 2 seasons, the might need to sign a few more youngsters who don’t need cl footy. But they’ll be back in two years. Obv some may want to leave, but their stars would still cost 100m plus giving them plenty to sign promising players.

Was going to say, did you mean pessimistic?
Then remembered it is the footy thread! ???

 

[Pin-seeker]

Without CL football then they lose a lot of money , prob also players , manager , sponsers - ultimately could end up with the owner selling up as well - could see them go back to where they were before the Sheik arrived. It’s a huge for them premier League

So the owners are just going to pack up & forget about the hundreds of millions they’ve invested because of a 2yr ban from Europe? ???

Yeah they’ll be playing League one football in a few seasons ??
Think you might be going a tad OTT here Phil ?

 

[fundy]

But in the meantime, still be banned?

depends if CAS will adjudicate before August I guess

 

[Tashyboy]

So with fans now saving on CL tickets at home & away games, will the home gates fill up a few more of the empty seats ?

Could do with a natter with the arsenal and Utd fans to see how to cope in the wilderness. ?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Think that’s a tad optimistic tbh.
its 2 seasons, the might need to sign a few more youngsters who don’t need cl footy. But they’ll be back in two years. Obv some may want to leave, but their stars would still cost 100m plus giving them plenty to sign promising players.

Im not so sure tbh - Obviously with more crackdowns on spending then it wouldn’t surprise me to see them being sold - on a world wide level they don’t appear to anywhere near have the same appeal as the historic European giants and are they a club that can be self sufficient?

And will premier league look at their fundings?

 

[Deleted member 1740]

If they’ve broken UEFA FFP rules then wouldn’t the PL have to punish them aswell for breaking PL FFP rules?

 

[Papas1982]

If they’ve broken UEFA FFP rules then wouldn’t the PL have to punish them aswell for breaking PL FFP rules?

Do they have same criteria?

Im not so sure tbh - Obviously with more crackdowns on spending then it wouldn’t surprise me to see them being sold - on a world wide level they don’t appear to anywhere near have the same appeal as the historic European giants and are they a club that can be self sufficient?

And will premier league look at their fundings?

how much is two years of CL worth? Clubs are allowed a percentage of external investment aren’t they. It’s the massive amounts they had previously that caused it.
Some of their biggest investors are basically the owners companies. They won’t have a non cl qualification punishment I imagine. So that’ll help.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Do they have same criteria?



how much is two years of CL worth? Clubs are allowed a percentage of external investment aren’t they. It’s the massive amounts they had previously that caused it.
Some of their biggest investors are basically the owners companies. They won’t have a non cl qualification punishment I imagine. So that’ll help.

Each season going into the group stage they believe is worth £50 mil - then up £100mil in KO

And it’s the “external investors” that are causing the issue I believe

 

[Papas1982]

Each season going into the group stage they believe is worth £50 mil - then up £100mil in KO

And it’s the “external investors” that are causing the issue I believe

It was investors from 2012 - 16. They've been punished for though, so if they have good deals sorted now then it'll matter less.

Imo if they keep the current squad it's still gonna walk top 4 in two years.so could swallow a 200m hit.

It's obv not ideal for them or the league as it certainly would weaken the competitiveness at the top. But I think it's too earoy to expect em to lose owners etc.

 

[clubchamp98]

deservedly so ???

Yes they do deserve it .
But it’s a bit suspicious that no other club has ever broke these rules.?

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Yes they do deserve it .
But it’s a bit suspicious that no other club has ever broke these rules.?

PSG, Real, Barcelona, Juventus immediately spring to mind ?

 

[Reemul]

Yes they do deserve it .
But it’s a bit suspicious that no other club has ever broke these rules.?

They all break the rules, fans that dont like the relevant teams are happy and also think their team would never do it when they are all at it