Premier League 2019-2020 we’re off

[hairball_89]

Fully agree - 6 weeks ago the price for Maguire was £80mil , they wanted him , didn’t go for anyone else so why did they wait for 6 weeks ? There was a caller on the radio and he says most Utd fans can’t believe Woodward is still there - everything is going through him and he has no clue about the sport hence these mad fees since Ferguson left ( think it’s a billion now spent since he left and all under Woodward )

For the £80mil they could have got Alderwied and then spent £50plus mil on a defensive mid and that would have given them a team to worry about

Isn't Tarkowski's release clause £50m? I'm not a huge fan, but he's easily on par with Maguire. Alderweireld AND tarkowski, with Lindelof (if he continues to improve) is a great choice of 3 centre halves.

But, Maguire could come in, transform the defence and score a few a la VVD. Who knows*?

*Not me, but i've got a good idea it's not quite going to work like that!

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Isn't Tarkowski's release clause £50m? I'm not a huge fan, but he's easily on par with Maguire. Alderweireld AND tarkowski, with Lindelof (if he continues to improve) is a great choice of 3 centre halves.

But, Maguire could come in, transform the defence and score a few a la VVD. Who knows*?

*Not me, but i've got a good idea it's not quite going to work like that!

If that is his release clause then it’s a better deal - and as you say add in Alderweild for £25 mil and your back line is far better

 

[Tashyboy]

Re Utd and transfers, for me it's a sticky one. When City strarted splashing the cash. city bought Robinho and Utd bought Berbatov from Spurs. Fergie went on record and said that Utd will never be in a position where they will be desperate/panic to buy players. Think that bridge was passed sometime ago. Players like Sanchez etc went there for one thing, money. They haven't contributed. City are now in a position where they will not be held to ransom when buying players. Some like VVD slip through the fingers. Others like Sanchez. Thank god he never came.
Re Maguire, I like him, I like him a lot. But is he worth £80 million. Time will tell but they have bought him from a notoriously difficult club to buy players from. Ave said this and al say it again. The problems for me at Utd are not just the players, but the person buying them? Woodward. Until the right manager is instilled that gets the best out of the players already there, I cannot see them improving.
Looking at how Everton, Leicester, Wolves, etc are doing business. I can see this being another painful season for Rags. Part of me is doing cartwheels, but if I am honest. I would love to See the top six being closed down by the afore mentioned clubs.
Looking forward to the season.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Another close game at Wemberlee, thought we should've won it but hey ho it's only a glorified friendly.

Looking forward to friday night now to get the new season underway.

 

[Pin-seeker]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1158072309065891846

Someone should’ve told em it’s only a friendly 🙈😂

 

[sawtooth]

Maguire is a good piece of business for Man Utd, young England international that has a long career still in front of him.

No worse than signing VVD for £75M IMO.

 

[Dan2501]

What a bunch of absolute weapons.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

What a bunch of absolute weapons.

Liverpool fans again and cant hear 1 scouse accent in that video 🤔

 

[Orikoru]

Maguire is a good piece of business for Man Utd, young England international that has a long career still in front of him.

No worse than signing VVD for £75M IMO.

Van Dijk fee seemed ridiculous and that was even considering he was in the top 2 or 3 CBs in the league already. Maguire is barely in the top ten centre backs in the league for me. Leicester have done a number on United and ripped them right off. The fee will be forgotten if he does well, but a couple of early errors and it will hang heavy around his neck.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Van Dijk fee seemed ridiculous and that was even considering he was in the top 2 or 3 CBs in the league already. Maguire is barely in the top ten centre backs in the league for me. Leicester have done a number on United and ripped them right off. The fee will be forgotten if he does well, but a couple of early errors and it will hang heavy around his neck.

Factor in the shambles that happened 6 months earlier VVD was probably £15m overpriced, Maguire's £50m overpriced 😉

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Van Dijk fee seemed ridiculous and that was even considering he was in the top 2 or 3 CBs in the league already. Maguire is barely in the top ten centre backs in the league for me. Leicester have done a number on United and ripped them right off. The fee will be forgotten if he does well, but a couple of early errors and it will hang heavy around his neck.

You could be right about the level of expectation and the price tag laying heavy. I am not convinced he's worth that sort of money, yet but he could develop into a world class player (although again not sure OGS is the one to do it). Trouble is, lots of PL sides seem bereft of good CB's and so with a limited pool of top players what are the alternatives?

 

[Tashyboy]

You could be right about the level of expectation and the price tag laying heavy. I am not convinced he's worth that sort of money, yet but he could develop into a world class player (although again not sure OGS is the one to do it). Trouble is, lots of PL sides seem bereft of good CB's and so with a limited pool of top players what are the alternatives?

I think the limited pool means go abroad as City did for Laporte and the new holding midfielder. I think the money would of been better invested in getting a world class manager. I would of broken the bank for Simeone.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

I think the limited pool means go abroad as City did for Laporte and the new holding midfielder. I think the money would of been better invested in getting a world class manager. I would of broken the bank for Simeone.

I like Simeone, but hes very much a type of manager whose very methodical and tries to stifle games. Not too sure Yernited fans would put up with that type of football, though I could be wrong.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I think the limited pool means go abroad as City did for Laporte and the new holding midfielder. I think the money would of been better invested in getting a world class manager. I would of broken the bank for Simeone.

Abroad seems to be a sensible option but again who is available. I wonder why clubs aren't looking at the South American leagues. Must be some emerging talent in places like Argentina and Brazil that could be available relatively cheaply and moulded into great players (and sold on for a heft profit). Where are all the top club scouts? Quality CB's are definitely a rare commodity it seems

 

[HomerJSimpson]

United have pulled the plug on pursuing Dybala https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49230085

 

[NWJocko]

Fully agree - 6 weeks ago the price for Maguire was £80mil , they wanted him , didn’t go for anyone else so why did they wait for 6 weeks ? There was a caller on the radio and he says most Utd fans can’t believe Woodward is still there - everything is going through him and he has no clue about the sport hence these mad fees since Ferguson left ( think it’s a billion now spent since he left and all under Woodward )

For the £80mil they could have got Alderwied and then spent £50plus mil on a defensive mid and that would have given them a team to worry about

If Liverpool had the nous then 18 months before they bought VVD they could have had him for £6m from Celtic tbf They need a centre half and pay what they needed to I guess, same as you did for Allison and VVD.

Money in England is absolutely insane now so no transfer fee makes sense, Jesus wept McBurnie went for £20m the other day, on that scale Tierney should cost Arsenal about £100m

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Abroad seems to be a sensible option but again who is available. I wonder why clubs aren't looking at the South American leagues. Must be some emerging talent in places like Argentina and Brazil that could be available relatively cheaply and moulded into great players (and sold on for a heft profit). Where are all the top club scouts? Quality CB's are definitely a rare commodity it seems

Unless they're already established internationals then we struggle getting work permits for South American Players.

 

[hairball_89]

Abroad seems to be a sensible option but again who is available. I wonder why clubs aren't looking at the South American leagues. Must be some emerging talent in places like Argentina and Brazil that could be available relatively cheaply and moulded into great players (and sold on for a heft profit). Where are all the top club scouts? Quality CB's are definitely a rare commodity it seems

Simple issue I'd imagine - they more than likely won't get a work permit. The ones that are big enough names to get a work permit wouldn't be the good deals.

 

[Tashyboy]

I like Simeone, but hes very much a type of manager whose very methodical and tries to stifle games. Not too sure Yernited fans would put up with that type of football, though I could be wrong.

Totally agree bit he's better than some of the rubbish they have had. 👍

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Totally agree bit he's better than some of the rubbish they have had. 👍

Keep OGS at all costs 🤭🤭