davemc1
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Man City in easy cup draw shock ?
Typo?
One stand out of course but I like the look of Arsenal v Leeds and think Leeds can win that and Wolves v Man Utd and can see that being a home win too. Hard to see where the giant killing will come from
Captainron
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This is a premier league thread Robin. Open a useless third rate cup that only non Champions League teams really want to win above all else thread......
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I am the last person to believe any Sky promoted hype.
However, it seems pretty clear to me, and many others, that the EPL is a more difficult league to win.
Not because of the number of potential winners but due to challenges provided by the teams at the lower end of the league.
Obviously there will be occasional mismatches (Man City 8 Watford 0, Soton 0 Leicester 9) but generally there are few games where the top clubs can cruise.
Alisson is the first ever winner of the Yachine Trophy! ?
It’s presented to the best performing goalkeeper of the year, alongside the Ballon d’Or. ?
It’s presented to the best performing goalkeeper of the year, alongside the Ballon d’Or. ?
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Well no surprise Messi wins - disappointing but I guess no one will be surprised, im more surprised that Ronaldo didn’t come second.
It’s a shame that who does the voting now can’t see past Messi - yes he scored lots of goals in La Liga but when the big game arrived he was missing
It’s a shame that who does the voting now can’t see past Messi - yes he scored lots of goals in La Liga but when the big game arrived he was missing
The top two nearly broke 100 points each last season. City did the year before. That's not a competitive or strong league. Neither of those sides are any better than the United/Chelsea/Arsenal teams of the 00s, yet aren't being challenged to anywhere near the extent those sides were.
18th place points total is trending downwards over time. 40 points hasn't been a requirement for some time now.
The teams at the lower end of the league are awful in comparison to the top, and no better than those in the other top leagues across Europe.
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Just seen the Cup draw 
Piece
Tour Winner
Surprised but not surprised if you know what I mean. Messi could be injured for 6 months and still win it
That said I think you can argue that from bottom-third down in most of the top leagues, the sides aren't that strong. Lets take 16th place randomly. PL is Brighton, Germany is Hertha Berlin (in relegation play-off spot) Italy is Lecce and Spain in Eibar. Hardly scary names.
I do however think you have a point regarding the PL and the bottom sides in their own mini league to avoid relegation and the requirement to be safe is becoming less and less.
Tashyboy
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Hang on five mins, the Balon Dor winner has just gone to VAR.
Not sure I get the dig about Ronaldo tbh. The two of the, have clearly been the best two players in the world for a decade.
Whilst I agree either Messi OR VVD were worthy this year I find it a tad extreme to put Barca’s exit at the feet of Messi considering the way he tore you a new one in the first leg.
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Dig ? Why is it a dig
Who put Barce’s “exit at the feet of Messi” ?
What someone does in the first leg of a two legged tie is irrelevant if the job isn’t completed - Messi did nothing in the second leg when it mattered along with his teammates
Ronaldo has a great year won the title with his club in a new league and also helped his country win the Euro Nations thing
Messi is a great player - maybe the best ever but for me last season VVD stood out above them but because he isn’t scoring the goals was probably never going to win.
It read to me like you were being sarcastic, as opposed to what you obviously meant having read your response since.
You’ve put the blame at his feet. Now you’ve included his team mates if anything that surely takes some blame off Messi? The semi was an epic result by you guys, no doubt. But it’s a fairytale result, doesn’t mean anything imo in regards to the quality of Messi imo
Imo they both won 1 tie each. If you had only won 3 nil I’d not have thought any less of VVD, equally, if Barça had won with Messi out injured, I would suddenly say he’s efforts in the first leg didn’t matter.
Fully agree with your last line though. CBS rarely get a sniff. Tbh, it’s nice to see a player at least get a sniff.
I’d also question how Salah is higher than Mane, and by a bigger margin than Messi over VVD if the leaked image I saw are to be believed.
clubchamp98
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Completely agree .
Usually the top goal scorer gets a golden boot or something .
This is supposed to be the best footballer and nothing to do with goals scored.
So if VVD didn’t win it means most footballers have no chance unless you are a striker.
That’s poor imo.
Luka Modric won it and scored less goals than VVD that year.... So its not always about goals.
That being said, if a striker is in contention then goals obv matter. Ronaldo has had his worst goals return in a decade and has dropped. By the same token for a keeper or defender. Clean sheets woukd be relevant.
clubchamp98
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Barcelona have had very little competition RM are not what they used to be.
But money talks in football it’s a very corrupt game at the top.
Messi is a great player but the best this year not imo.
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I can't remember who said it but someone on here said VVD was overrated last season ?
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clubchamp98
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Who was he playing for though.?
It’s like players getting in the England squad over the years ,they were overlooked unless they played for a big club.
But at least that’s changing.
