Orikoru
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I don't have a problem with my legs getting cold. As Papas said it's probably something to do with using your leg muscles to run. But even on the golf course I wear shorts unless it's below 10°. My hands are a different story.
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If you wear your correct kit you were long socks don't you.... Which leave very little to get cold from thigh to below knee.. nice big muscle for blood to fill
Nothing wrong with gloves and I'd suggest vardy is pretty tough ..
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Strong rumours that Messi has won the Balon D'Or. Don't agree at all myself. It really should be VVD.
Not like the good old days when men were men playing on rock hard pitches usually with minimal grass by this time of year and covered in frozen sand. It may be an urban myth but didn't Keith Weller wear a pair of tights under his shorts in a game in the 70's playing for Leicester
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It’s always going to be Messi - it’s a shame really that his goals will seem more Important than the impact VVD defending and leadership has to us. I maybe bias but VVD should win it
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To me, as unbiased observer, VVD has contributed far more to his team over the 12 months than Messi. If Messi helped Barca to Champions League glory, then fair enough. But he didn't and VVD did.
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As great as he is, no CB should win the Ballon d'or.
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Behave Stu!
Goalscorers have never won games on their own, no matter how good they may be.
Van Dijk was the outstanding player last year regardless of his position and should be recognised such.
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If it's an award for rewarding goals and dribbling past people, then I'm watching and coaching the wrong game.
I think a lot depends on how you decide the ballon D’or. If you simply select the player that has been the most vital to a club then that’s a whole different system imo.
You could argue De Gea could have won it for 4 years if that’s the case. If you then include winning things then it becomes closer between the two at the top. Btw I’m not saying he should before anyone over reacts.
Messi scored 36 goals in 34 games in the league. Clearly a massive contribution to that win.
Liverpool conceded in over half their games in the cl, with their most impressive wins being some big scoring games in the later stages. Does that highlight VVD prowess? You could argue maybe not.
In the league he has clearly improved the defence. That can be seen simply by comparing the 6 months before and after his arrival. But they didn’t win the league, so it has less weight in its importance if we use trophies as a barometer.
I actually felt last year (and this) that Mane has been the key player. So would find it hard to pick VVD for Balon D’or simply because if you aren’t Liverpool’s most important, how can you be Europe’s.
You could argue De Gea could have won it for 4 years if that’s the case. If you then include winning things then it becomes closer between the two at the top. Btw I’m not saying he should before anyone over reacts.
Messi scored 36 goals in 34 games in the league. Clearly a massive contribution to that win.
Liverpool conceded in over half their games in the cl, with their most impressive wins being some big scoring games in the later stages. Does that highlight VVD prowess? You could argue maybe not.
In the league he has clearly improved the defence. That can be seen simply by comparing the 6 months before and after his arrival. But they didn’t win the league, so it has less weight in its importance if we use trophies as a barometer.
I actually felt last year (and this) that Mane has been the key player. So would find it hard to pick VVD for Balon D’or simply because if you aren’t Liverpool’s most important, how can you be Europe’s.
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Nail on the head there
VVD is class there is no getting away from it but he isn't the stand out for Liverpool like you say .. stand out CB in the league yes
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You got the team right Homer, but I think it was Frank Worthington
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Homer is correct
Ok cheers Paul, but I'm sure I remember seeing Frank Worthington on MOTD back in the 70's also wearing them ðŸ‘
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Apologies mate, went to add youtube link of match and deleted by accident.
A few others have worn them, Barnes, N Clough, Giggs etc
Apologies mate, went to add youtube link of match and deleted by accident.
A few others have worn them, Barnes, N Clough, Giggs etc
Must have been some awkward chats between a dad and his son after that....
Tights, as used back then, would protect leg muscles against pulls and strains etc. Gloves don't protect any key muscles that are relevant to football, apart from keepers.
It's an old school one isn't it? It doesn't do any harm but for for those of a generation it doesn't sit right. I don't quite know why, an era thing.
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Without him (but with Mane) Liverpool were way off Man City.
With him they so nearly won the PL and did win the CL.
Clearly made the difference and, to me, was Liverpool's standout player.
Orikoru
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And considering the multi cultural league we have now, I would never begrudge a player who was born and raised in Africa or South America wearing gloves when it's 2°c!
But yeah, no point having frozen hands just to maintain some kind of air of imaginery manliness is there.I draw the line at tights though. I wouldn't wear them, my legs don't feel the cold and it's only about 4 inches between your shorts and your footy socks anyway. A few lads on our Sunday team always the tights. They're not for me but each to their own!
Oh I accept the benefits, but, if someone is gonna object to someone wearing gloves because it makes you look soft. I doubt very much that they’d be ok with someone wearing tights.
