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Because there are certain long standing members who are very very slow players and hold up the whole course - known to lose 3 holes to the group in front.
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Because there are certain long standing members who are very very slow players and hold up the whole course - known to lose 3 holes to the group in front.
Interesting... how did these 2 guys react to their ban?
5 hours is pretty desperate - do you play in threes or fours?
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williamalex1
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I was told that in the bad old days before my time. If you didn't break 100 in a medal , you were barred from the next 3 medals and told to practice then try again. Maybe food for thought, if its in the club rules there's no comeback from anyone.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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We had our first winter Saturday roll-up just last Saturday. 21 of us. Prior to going out organiser stood up and gave us all a little talking to about how essential it was for us to avoid slow play as experience over summer had us getting a reputation for being slow. He took the first winter roll-up as the opportunity to look everyone in the eye and give all of us the 'ammunition' to chide slow PPs.
We went out in three balls AM-AM. 3 and 3/4 hr round on average. Not bad I'd say. And organiser took opportunity to make that point as we gathered afterwards. So 3 and 3/4 hrs is now our benchmark for a 3 ball AM-AM and should be same for our normal fourballs. I'm thinking he'll restate that as our target up front next Saturday and point out afterwards how we did against that benchmark. So now we all know what we can achieve and what is expected of us - all.
So next week the first group to take longer than 3 and 3/4 hrs will have to explain to us all why...
We went out in three balls AM-AM. 3 and 3/4 hr round on average. Not bad I'd say. And organiser took opportunity to make that point as we gathered afterwards. So 3 and 3/4 hrs is now our benchmark for a 3 ball AM-AM and should be same for our normal fourballs. I'm thinking he'll restate that as our target up front next Saturday and point out afterwards how we did against that benchmark. So now we all know what we can achieve and what is expected of us - all.
So next week the first group to take longer than 3 and 3/4 hrs will have to explain to us all why...
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chellie
Tour Winner
Slow play only seems to be a problem with the men. Certainly never heard any complaining from the ladies at our club.
Will also add that although I have a high handicap I'm not a slow player. Club always ready for next shot, no practise swings, rarely spend time having to look for balls and cards marked off the green. If I was slow HID would definately tell me and so would the other men I play with including the 4 handicapper.
Will also add that although I have a high handicap I'm not a slow player. Club always ready for next shot, no practise swings, rarely spend time having to look for balls and cards marked off the green. If I was slow HID would definately tell me and so would the other men I play with including the 4 handicapper.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
New member I've played with a couple of times recently. Full stance and practice swing for every shot; regularly changes club selection involving much walking to and from bag each time; declines offered opportunities to putt out on even short putts and so marks. And of course - trolley rarely taken to the tee side of the green when putting; dithering when he has honour on the tee. I could go on. Thing is - where did he learn all of this stuff.
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Prob watching a pro do it.
chellie
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No bloody idea but surely unless someone tells him he'll just carry on doing it. HID told me what was expected of me before I went on a course for the first time and also other ladies (a couple being ex captains) checked that I knew things like that when we first joined and I went out with them. Perhaps they did that as I only started learning to play just over a year ago.
GB72
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Sadly the answer at my old club was to limit more and more comps to 18 handicap max.
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Played with a mate of mine recently. New to golf and only played once before on an 18 hole course (the day before we played) and had a couple of lessons. He took a practice swing and really focussed on the basics. He went round in 115 and we were still round in less than 4 hours with a 10 minute break because of thunder and lightening and so we stopped and put the clubs in the trees to keep a tad drier and loitered for it to stop. It is a fallacy to say not breaking 100 has to mean a slow round and even in a competition it doesn't has to be that way. Even in club championship round 1 this year I played with a guy who failed to break 100 and on the most important round of the year arguably (trying to make the cut for the next round the following year) we still were four hours.
It depends on players, their perceptions and the mindset of the club.
It depends on players, their perceptions and the mindset of the club.
Hacker Khan
Yurt Dwelling, Yoghurt Knitter
Not sure if it is that in a lot of cases and I think a lot of it is a result of advice, lessons, articles people read in mags or internet videos.
I went for a couple of lessons with a pro once and he was telling me to do the visualisation thing, step back and make sure you are aiming at the target, pick a spot a couple of yards in front of you to aim at and have a practice swing. It was all good sensible advice, but whilst he was telling me this I couldn't help thinking that this would add on 20 or 30 seconds onto each shot I play. So I didn't bother with most of it and mostly just get there and whack the ball.
This would probably explain why I still struggle to break 100 on some occasions. But at least I fail to break 100 quickly
HawkeyeMS
Ryder Cup Winner
Pre-shot routines have a lot to answer for. Most of the time I don't even take a practice swing. Line it up and hit it works for me. Anything more than that I'd get bored
thepodgster
Head Pro
I think it is elitist, but what an absolute helmet to think you wouldn't be putting people out if you were playing to that standard and then put yourself right in the middle of the times available.
From personal experience there's a simple way to solve this issue:
Take your shot, get jogging, take your shot, get jogging and continue like this for the next 4 hours.
I guarantee if this individual played like this they would play better as they wouldn't be thinking about their shot to much, they get free phys, they keep up with play and everyones a winner!!!!
blackpuddinmonster
Challenge Tour Pro
This is all well and good, as long as the members with higher handicaps were made aware of this before paying for full membership.
If i'am paying the same fees as a sub 18 h/capper i expect the same playing privilages.
If i'am not going to get this, then i'l take my hard earned elsewhere.
PS. The slowest player i played with all summer was of 13.
GB72
Money List Winner
Depends which clique you were in. some liked the idea that there were no higher handicappers on the course and loved the fact that they were not winning comps. I left.
blackpuddinmonster
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Don't blame you for leaving - three of my mates are all over 18 handicap and if they weren't allowed in comps would leave.
What was the course if you don't mind me askin
PNWokingham
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I dislike slow play but don't feel it is necessarily due to handicap (or age) - one of the slowest players at our club is also one of the best - and others I can think of don't come from the higher handicap range!
